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I don't know what you're on about Bear. She looks like a young Pat Butcher.

Will I fúck. I'm in Liverpool this weekend.

Fresh beef. OP updated. Tokyo-Saint vs norwaysaint Tokyo thinks norwaysaint is more boring version of Ludwig. norwaysaint has made a commitment to give Tokyo semi-regular forum slap. Let me know if you want me to make yours official, bletch.

I'm not doing your job for you, jj. Let's build on the two sentence post and hear some specifics.

In what world would you expect me to take your point seriously without any qualification? Come on, you can do better than that.

I'm a little surprised that a man in your position, geographically speaking, would be entirely happy with the likes of CIA causing mayhem. Ukraine could easily spark into a general war, making your hellish two week return to England seem like Disneyland in comparison. That said, you always stick up for the "good guys", don't you mucker? Too much Red Dawn and Top Gun in the 1980s, I reckon.

Good job, mate. It's from a broadsheet newspaper. Some big words

Superb piece on the mess in Ukraine by John Pilger. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/ukraine-us-war-russia-john-pilger?CMP=fb_gu

I bet the final straw was NC saying "adidas stands for After Dinner I Did A Shít". They don't like that.

Are we now your "Premier League team"?

200 notes. Gotta squeeze them first, Tokes.

I agree. He got them for nothing and wants face value. Sell it, SO16_Saint. Easy come, easy go after all.

I've signed your petition, my Welsh friend. By way of return, anything you can do to reduce the somewhat spunky flavour of Welsh lamb will be appreciated.

Word of mouth is a powerful thing. There is now a widespread public perception that the XBox One is less powerful and less desirable than the PS4. I think that, rather than price, is the real issue. The price has already dropped a few times, going as low as £329, undercutting the PS4 by £20. As many on Eurogamer have said, the removal of Kinect isn't really a price cut - it's the new price for a different package. Something to keep off the bill of materials. It actually makes the machine a more attractive proposition for me; I was never comfortable with an always-on camera spying on my living room. However, it must be somewhat annoying for those that have bought into Kinect. This part of the XBox One ecosystem will at best be placed into maintenance mode. Developers will be less enthused about writing software for something that'll only work on a subset of the target hardware.

Our family in Southampton was always Labour, mostly because they had the distinction of being the party noted for looking after the common man. They're a complicated proposition these days; pro-business, willing to help to start wars, authoritarian and utterly in step to globalist interests, which of course, includes the EU. All of those are potential conflicts of interest to what's best for the people. The common man is presently concerned with the stresses that membership of the EU is placing on the country. The major parties haven't listened and are still not listening. For many, UKIP are now seen to be the party of the common man. It's anecdotal, and not scientific, I was surprised at the number of people I spoke to on the Flower Estates, a multi-racial estate of some diversity, who said they were going to vote UKIP. Some of those were former Labour voters; others were people who'd never talked politics before in their lives. I think that the UKIP adverts are distasteful, but find the hypocrisy unbelievable. It was only three years ago that the NO2AV multi-party campaign group, a greater hive of scum and self-interest you will never see, telling the British public that soldiers and babies would be killed if they voted for the proposed electoral system. I can understand why UKIP are taking this route; they want to win as many votes as they can. The posters are alarmingly worst-case, and in some cases inaccurate. Where that's the case, the ASA will pull them up on it and they'll be publicly reprimanded or fined. As of 28th of April, they'd had precisely 19 complaints. http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/04/28/asa-urges-those-offended-ukip-ad-campaign-contact-party-directly

Partially. Most people aren't politically active; most of those that are see it as a team sport, and yes, the suggestible little fúckers will lap up and repeat whatever it is their team is saying, even if it's something ridiculous. It's completely pointless. If you're getting into politics, it should be to add your voice to the discussion. People tend to do the complete opposite, and adopt a bunch of views that aren't really their own or reinforce their cultivated pre-conceptions.

Don't make the mistake of thinking I'm shouting for UKIP here. I know plenty of people that are, including lots of former Labour voters and people who aren't white. I won't be voting for them in the European Elections. That said, I can spot an orchestrated campaign a mile off. What I object to is the cheap and easy labelling that both you and the mainstream press are passing off as debate. Take a look at the "pro-EU" posts on this thread and then consider how many of them actually make a case for the merits of the EU. FWIW, Lord D's regurgitation of Farage's "people's army" bollócks is just as annoying. Both sides of the arguments look like unwitting and unthinking mouthpieces, spewing up whatever it is they've heard, all the while giving the pretense of digestion.

Its shortcomings are obvious in games like Titanfall. You haven't played Sunset Overdrive yet. This is the state of XBox One fandom. Picking games that are either better on other platforms or, amazingly, not even out yet. btw; the writing is pretty much on the wall on this one. I won't hold my breath waiting for all the people who called performance differences "marginal" to show some class.

It's cute that you don't even try to argue the merits of the machine any more

Microsoft to release a Kinect-less XBox One this June. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-13-xbox-one-without-kinect-levels-the-playing-field-with-ps4 I reckon HDMI-in in might be next to go. Aren't most of the TV functions really integrated with Kinect? Anyway, another huge u-turn for Microsoft, in a time when all they are willing to report are the number of XBox One's they've shipped to retailers. Sony just publishes its "sold through" stats. Over by Christmas?

I never expected you to agree with this. You've been one of the prime regurgitators of the panoply of UKIP hit pieces out there. You're upset because an anti-EU party is framing a debate on immigration with the politics of fear? Isn't that exactly what the other parties are doing concerning UKIP? Making people too fearful or ashamed of voting for them? Let's address the rest of your points. Thandi, eh? While I don't want to unfairly dismiss someone on the basis of their age, I rarely seek out 18 year olds for political insight, and if I did, someone that belonged to a political party would be even further down my list. She was a member of UKIP for 2 years and is now surprised that an anti-EU party is campaigning on the issues of immigration. What did she think the elections would be thought on? Onerous triple entry systems in the Brussels Parliament? I hear what she's saying, but I also realise that she's demonstrably naive. The horse has already bolted on authoritarian issues, KRG. You give me a couple of coppers going around to someone's house, I'll raise you the enabling act that Labour passed in 2007, or the taxpayer money presently being spent on GCHQ's project to allow them to covertly turn on web-cams. The time to scream about your civil liberties was a decade ago. Flat tax isn't currently their policy, even though I agree with it. Progressive taxation is great on paper; a fantasy in practice. Just ask David Cameron's dad. Can you point me to the part in their manifesto where they say that, as a party, they'd like to make marital rape legal?

I'm getting less impressed with this thread as it goes on. It's depressingly following the pattern of the national media, which has been hit piece after hit piece on UKIP. Reading across the site, it's clear that these charges of racism being universally applied to UKIP supporters won't fly. We've got a Britain First thread, an organisation founded by former BNP members, currently spreading bile on social media. I don't see any of the posters stridently arguing for an EU exit condoning any of the Britain First activities. The pro-EU crowd are too often conflating the question of immigration with racism. It polarises the argument immediately, and labels people unfairly. If you're a Eurosceptic living in Hampshire, UKIP is your only choice. Is every person in Hampshire voting UKIP a racist? Hardly. They're driven to this because established political parties have kept the EU question off the agenda for decades. In spite of all that, it has been amusing seeing people getting blown along by this political wind. I don't think I've ever seen the established parties as frit as they are with UKIP, or this level of attention lavished on such a relatively small player. Big parties are shítting themselves. This thread is just monkeys flinging the resultant faecal matter about. Wake me up when someone has an opinion of their own, ta.

It's not going well for Bazza over on the UI. Gotta admire both the take-no-prisoners nature of the UI sometimes. Feel a bit sorry for Bazza. Will he learn, do ya reckon?

She should vote for NO2EU.

I'm up for this, if only to discover what a girly voice Bear has.