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Apologies if posted before, but some respect being shown over at Bluemoon. http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=299407

Aguero still out, according to this:- http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/04/sergio-aguero-manchester-city-southampton-injured

Even you might get laid here. They're that down to earth.

Sexism, eh? This is what happens when the shoe is on the other foot. http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/apr/04/everyday-sexism-turn-tables-women-men-video

I think it's disgraceful that you'd suggest MP would own a vibrator, let alone one he would be prepared to lend out.

We're too busy being a magnet for film-makers atm, skip http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/filming-liverpool-bid-more-movies-6865801

Ah fk. I s'pose I'd better listen to some Kasabian.

Great article, Nolan. Always nice to see what the "Japananese" are up to.

Dire games shortage? Please. PS4 http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps4/date XBOX One http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xboxone/date Want to back that up with figures? The new XBox chief simply talks of a "great attach rate" in this article entitled Microsoft : PlayStation has not won (lolz). http://spong.com/article/31647/Microsoft-PlayStation-Has-Not-Won Anyway, you seem to be missing the point that attach rate is number of games sold per console. Meaning they're getting more value than they can handle? Why are you making out like that's a bad thing? Why invoke the PS3 in a PS4 vs XBox argument. As it goes, my PS3 is now in Juvenile Unit #2's bedroom. She gets free games every month. Amazed that you'd try to list this as a negative And yet, MGS : Ground Zeroes, a glorified demo, beat out Titanfall first week of its release. Minecraft, a Java-based lego game with almost no production gloss, is one of the most popular games in the world. It's creator is a multi-millionaire off the back of the sales. Yeah, you do, and you still do on PS Plus. It's just covered in your subscription and paid out of that. It's a brilliant service for consumers. I think on this point more than any other, you've put the nail in the coffin of the XBox One. Good job, mate.

It's a weaker machine. It has more exclusives (i.e. not coming out for PS4) than the other way around, but sales wise, they've already lost to Sony. They'll spend the rest of the generation throwing good money after bad securing more exclusives. Aw, check out the Microsoft Gold subscriber here. All bummed out because Games For Gold has now been "hammered" by PS Plus. Y'see, Microsoft have got their own "free games" program. The problem is, it's shít, and doesn't offer any XBox One games as part of the deal. Microsoft will be fixing that soon. As Barry says, the PS Plus is a super deal for consumers. On Nolan's points that he's just pulled from his arse:- 1) Developers get paid for PSN releases regardless. Sony haven't got them locked in a room breaking a finger at a time until they relent. 2) If no-one needs to buy PS4 games anymore, how comes PS4 games are top of the sales charts?

Fantasy. Fantasy. Fantasy. Careful, Nick

It's a superficially good point, but might some take the view that the main aim is to put pressure on the main political parties by eroding their FPTP votes? If a main party pulled a referendum rabbit out of the hat just before the election, they'd attract a lot of votes and UKIP would get one of their stated objectives if that pledge was honoured post-election. Maybe it's the ends, not the means, that are of interest to the majority of UKIP's supporters. I share the concerns of many about the depth of UKIP. Some of their supporters on Twitter could do with a digital rabies shot; they got it bad. I do have a lot of sympathy with their prime objective though. The EU has become something of a millstone, and no-one, least of all Clegg, is offering satisfactory solutions or telling the truth about the full extent of immigration. This consumption based study of immigration suggests a UK population of 77 million. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/city-eye-facts-on-a-plate-our-population-is-at-least-77-million-395428.html My take is that I wouldn't really want them governing, but I think they're an excellent mechanism for a protest vote. The upcoming MEP elections are the perfect opportunity; Clegg has poured petrol on the bonfire with this limp and intellectually dishonest performance. If the UK returns a load of UKIP MEPs to go to Brussels, really the ultimate "Fúck EU", main parties can no longer avoid the R word.

Why not? Personally, I'm sick of hearing the same on message stuff from people who have an agenda, but do everything to avoid stating what it actually is, largely involving broad platitudes about a vision for Britain. It was fun seeing Farage in the EU debates. Given the pea souper we've currently got outside ( amusing given Dave's environmental credentials ), it might not be bad to hear from someone with green ideas front and centre. That said, the Greens only polled 289K votes out of 30M, and haven't made the sort of progress that UKIP have. They're frequently the third party in elections they contest and it'll be difficult to deny Farage the opportunity to speak if, as i suspect, UKIP do very well in the MEP elections next month.

I'd disagree. The share of the popular vote is more important.

Indeed. People have thrown #2 my way several times. It's shít. 2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit. I'm not sure on reputation points protocol away from home, Bear - but if it were down to me, this fine on-topic contribution would net you some.

To be fair Tokes, the thread is trying to determine whether the Internet is serious business. Blame Bearsy for early muppetisation.

We also know Clegg has no chance of being Prime Minister, yet he'll be in the debate.

A-ha! Do I spot number 18? 18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

You've picked the wrong example there, bro. Bearsy called me díck once. He's not wrong, like - but there it is.

It was your message to Phil. "You haven't actually paid for your tickets yet, have you". I was concerned that the Eavis' might be like those cockneys on Oxford Street who sell unmarked boxes and that I might walk away disappointed with Rick Astley.

Serious business: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.html The EU is setting up a war chest to debate Eurosceptics online

I've now paid for my tickets. I was hoping for some last minute "don't do it pap" warning from KRG. It did not arrive. I am now committed.

why allow someone who has no MPs in parliament to share a platform with the major parties.Cameron will not share a platform either and I expect there will be no ukip MPs in parliament at the next election has always been the case in the past . UKIP polled almost a million votes at the last general election and would have got 20 seats under a proportional system. Seems as if you're using the outcome of a bad electoral system to justify the disenfranchisement of not only those voters, but all the voters UKIP have picked up in the interim. If they take a sizeable chunk of these MEP elections, what then?

Almost certainly, but then none of us are here because we're time poor Besides, I have a highly transparent agenda to prosecute here.