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That sounds comprehensively vague and non-committal.

Live somewhere civilised. 4G is very very nice.

Oi!

It's a very simple political trick though. I know this because the Conservatives did the same thing ("look what you said!") to the Lib Dems writ large after the election.

The other thing to remember was that this was 2006, a year after 7/7.

I'm actually bored with commenting on your commentary chaps. I'm just going to post articles and let people make their minds up. You carry on, though

Just contacted my boy for this sort of hardware. Doesn't deal with them normally, but may know a man who can. Will let you know if anything turns up.

The latest sales charts. http://www.vgchartz.com/ Ouch. On January 25th figures, not only is the XBox One being outsold at almost 2:1 globally, it has also sold less in North America.

Matelots are always quite amusing

Has anyone seen their own Facebook movie yet? Actually a sh!tload cooler than I thought.

Seems like the press are really going after UKIP. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/04/ukip-mep-gerard-batten-muslims-sign-charter-rejecting-violence Looks like a big story, but basically, they've just pulled an MEP to stand by what he said in 2006.

Facebook is fine for friends and family, but that's where I draw the line these days. I used to have lots of work mates on there too, but it's not a good idea. One of my more colourful mates decided to spout a load of sh!te on my feed, and I was torn between censoring my mate (which I didn't want to do) or ditching all my work colleagues, the option I eventually took. That happened at around the same time as apps were really starting to integrate with Facebook, so it was a good time to make the call. It's facilitated some really good nights out, kept our year together in a way that FriendsReunited never did, and depending on the level of contribution, gives you some insight into what people are doing with themselves. On the negative side, you do have a lot of your preconceptions about some of your friends shattered a bit

Cameron's willingness to fess up and apologise for some the gross injustices perpetuated by the UK is one of his few redeeming features. He is also mortal.

Actually bletch, you can stop propagating your nonsense about being the "normal" winner. I finished above you in the TMS poll. So you see.... oh... sh!t. I see what you did there. Carry on. What were the Lounge results, btw?

And one of the big reasons we're in a global market is the emergence of supra-national trading blocs, which you do seem to be supporting.

How many people reading this forum remember the British Empire at its height? Whitey G, maybe? ( /ducks ) The question is serious; how can you long for days you don't remember? Those with a living memory of the Empire will just remember it unravelling amongst various declarations of independence. Those who've done any research will realise that a big part of Empire was having a protectionist trading system; autarky within the Empire, if you will. It was that which our enemies sought to destroy; they largely succeeded in that respect, leaving us with this fantastic globalised economy you seem to be in thrall to.

Lord D; you do your own content a great disservice with generalisations about the left. The same could be said for Hockey's barely-explained assertion that "people want to have their cake and eat it", a saying I've never really understood. What else are you going to do with a cake? Something worth bearing in mind is that many immigrants think immigration is a problem. Now is this simply a case of pulling the ladder up, once you've established your own situation, or is it a reflection of the fact that it's going to be difficult to accommodate more people into the existing infrastructure, at a time when the existing infrastructure isn't serving the existing population correctly? Immigration can be a tremendous asset to a country if used properly. In the UK context, it seems to be operating mostly for the benefit of business and the hard-working immigrant population. Prospective employers gain access to a much larger labour market, often containing skills that would have otherwise have been renewed in apprenticeships. Anyone coming here to apply themselves can benefit from the economies of scale. Live like a pauper here for five years and go home a winner. The problem is, the benefits of immigration aren't as apparent, and indeed, aren't as real for the average Brit. If you're working, you're going to worry about job security and wage pressure. If you've got kids, you wonder how they'll fit into this enlarged market, or whether they'd emerge with a better education if resources weren't being expended on getting the nippers from overseas up to speed. Cameron likes to talk tough on quotas for non-EU migration, but the elephant in the room is EU migration. I know we're not going to have the hypothetical worst case of 500 million people turning up at the same time, but at the same time, EU migration can't be planned for and it can't really be controlled. The best a country gets is seven years grace. After that, all bets are off, and here hockey_saint gets his wish; we're all the same. To Lord D's point though, we're not all the same. There are vast cultural differences between different parts of the European Union, formed and forged for a myriad of different reasons. Which begs the fundamental question; are all of these nation states supposed to be one country? That is what many of the European statesmen would like us to be, and that's the reality you must face long-term if you are pro-EU. Sovereignty will eventually transfer to a central authority; so much of it has already. That is an incredibly dangerous position to be if you are interested in promoting the ideals of freedom. The rise of totalitarianism was largely inhibited by the construct of nation states and their ability to subdue other nation states. Knowing that, is it really wise to concentrate power in one, largely unaccountable place?

Ha! I know people who do that! (I don't hang around with them much)

The Dude and Walter, if it helps any:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjibEkDoXQc

Heh. Gratz to SaintWeb moderators. Obviously, they're a lot "harder" bunch than the libel-fearin' mods I've seen crack down on clues elsewhere

Welcome to the "worth knowing" club, skint I'm kinda aiming for a Dude look atm mate, but fear I'm more like Walter.

My test is very simple. Anyone who has seen it more than once but doesn't like it ain't worth knowing

Daily Mail (Britain's least accurate newspaper). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550486/Beloved-pop-star-abused-10-year-old-boy-Alleged-victim-witness-spoken-Savile-police-officers.html

Well, contestants were brought to the BBC under false pretenses....