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Ah, I see. Black and white. Good guys and bad guys. Superb to see such nuanced debate.

Sorry. Didn't realise you were actually trying to trade on that as a serious point. Y'see, for your point to have any validity, you'd kinda need to have examples of me saying the same things as you are now. You don't, so I'm not sure what your point is. Happy (h|c)unting mate.

What's your highest level of strawman qualification? Sub-GCSE? Do they do a BTEC first or something?

Yeah but again, who should be the target of your ire here? Logic dictates that you should march down HMRC/write to your MP/take direct action and ask why all these big companies aren't paying tax. Realistically, most will just focus on calling Brand a hypocrite. Practically, f**k all changes.

Bit of a difference between handing out subsidies to national industries and giving corporations free money. You can argue that the state gets to keep the money invested there. The question you really want to ask is that in straitened times, why this isn't on the news itself?

More unbridled narcissism from Brand here. Plus something about how globalisation and large food corporations get subsidised by government. Careful kids. Bitter pseudo-retirees will be along to dismantle this message with cherry bombs.

As do many of the smaller grounds. However, as any Southampton fan who does away trips will tell you, the bigger clubs can't be arsed getting up for it when playing the likes of us. Given that there are only six or seven "likes of them" about, it means that the atmosphere is crapola 12/19 home games. We had one poor atmosphere at St Marys this season, I reckon. That was WBA.

Load of rubbish, I reckon. Maybe Jim White only goes to some of those bigger clubs when they're playing big teams. Otherwise, the atmosphere is shít.

No further investigations, your honour. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/11204405/MPs-to-escape-expenses-investigations-after-paperwork-destroyed-by-Parliament.html

Sure. http://www.skysports.com/podcast/0,20494,19913,00.html

I think Saints fans will have a much more pleasant experience with Sunday Supplement this week. Just listened to the podcast version which closes with a section on Saints. They talked about something that has been doing my head in all day on the drive back to Liverpool. Chelsea going nine points clear of Man City. Anyway, they did much better than the usual.

Think it depends on how much you watch. I've seen a lot of his Trews stuff; the bloke does comments vids where people knock his points and he responds to them. Few are under any illusions about the media. It's controlled, agenda-driven and is directed by governments (Beeb, RT) or corporations (Murdoch and the rest). Anyone that takes MSM at face value is a fking idiot, and if you need any evidence of that, all you really need to do is look at something like Hillsborough and observe how the media served the official narrative of that day. These aren't even new concerns.

Juvenile Unit #2 played a cup final at Anfield. Lawro was one of the dignitaries that said hello. Frankly, after seeing his garb ( dressed for Moscow in January when it was October in Liverpool ) and his miserable slapped arse face, I decided he wasn't really that on the ball.

He is from Preston.

Got my Sleater Kinney ticket. I'm very excited about it - will be seeing them in Manchester instead of London. They've been on the car stereo quite a bit recently. I've also started listening to established "car movie" songs when driving about. This sends ms pap f**king mad "Convoy" also does her head in

Nice goals, Graziano (well, we live in hope!)

I think a big part of the problem with Brand haters, particularly those on the left, is that he openly questions the validity of institutions and systems that govern our lives. Whether they have a right to exist, or at the very least, whether they should have the power that they do. These are questions that many don't bother asking at all, or worse, actively act as apologists for.

Bought a new tablet in the last few months, which came with three months of Marvel Unlimited. As a consequence, I've been spending a lot of time catching up with Marvel Comics recently. Comics are an unfairly derided art form. Much like the rest of sci-fi, it's a medium that doesn't have a great deal of attention (hey, it's for kids right) and allows some fairly huge subjects to be tackled in depth. Alan Moore's ("V for Vendetta") stuff is a great example, as is Joe Sacco's Palestine. Marvel themselves have a great history of tackling social issues in their works. The X-Men are about the civil rights movement, Black Panther was the first black superhero, way back in 1966. I've finished reading their Civil War "event". It's something of a gamechanger for the universe, and features some very brave writing. The event kicks off with a tragedy. A team of super-heroes accosts a group of super-villains and an explosion occurs, killing 600 people outright, including around 60 elementary schoolchildren. In response, the US government creates the Superhero Registration Act, legally requiring all costumed heroes to register with the government and work for them. Iron Man becomes the poster child for pro-registration. Captain America leads the charge against the act. Sci-fi often works best as an allegory; the themes in this series are very post-9/11. How much liberty does one sacrifice for security? Should one blindly accept the legitimacy of government policy? Do the ends justify the means? It's a very thoughtful take on some troubled times, and well worth your time if you have the Marvel Unlimited app.

That's what they want you to think

Brand won't lift people out of apathy alone, but some of the topics he is talking about will have huge public appeal. I doubt very much that Boris Johnson will ever talk about mass debt cancellation, for example. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/28/russell-brand-david-graeber-debt-capitalism_n_6059552.html If you're going to judge the bloke on his content, I'd advise watching his own YouTube channel instead of Evan Davies trying to get him up on conspiracy ropes.

I thought you were talking about new Royal Navy wánking policy, tbh.

Mark Steel has an excellent take on some of Brand's critics. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/if-you-think-russell-brands-new-book-is-confused-you-should-read-what-his-critics-have-to-say-about-it-9829224.html

It was a shít point which was answered on a technicality. It continues to be a shít point. Her grand-dad reads this site, you classless fúck. In a year I'll probably have forgotten about it. Does that answer your question?

This was a shít line of questioning when VW started it. The theory is the girls have got something called self-respect and are able to make adult decisions on that basis, especially the one that is actually an adult. It's not really a discussion point germane to this discussion, because it was irrelevant in the first place. Congrats on hitting a more impressive nadir than Ludwig on the Russell Brand thread, though.