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Communist Labour © Dune 2010

Economies of scale though mate surely? The chinese can mine it and ship it to us cheaper than we can just mine it. Sad but true. As you allude to though, there must be a cost benefit to putting a subsidy in place and employing skilled tradesmen in shipbuilding for example instead of paying benefits, this would then drive youth unemployment down as we could go back to proper apprenticeships. My brother in law was in the last batch of apprentices into Vospers, god know what he'd have done without that.

I fkn hope so, I'm very dissapointed with Ed so far.

No, you really are a ****.

while we're at it, if you do a job for cash you're as good as a benefit fraudster......

We're never going to competitive enough to mine though are we; plenty of other countries willing to do the job for less. Same situation for large scale manufacturing and shipbuilding. All of the recent cruise ships are built in France, Italy, Finland because they do it cheaper. If it wasn't for the MOD the BAE yards in the UK would all shut, they're not competitive compared to other countries.

Never going to happen was it, as I've said above. Once you sell the family jewels they're too expensive to replace. Just as Labour will not repeal the student fees rising to a max £9000 IMO.

So you're all right, I know lots of people that it helped, as you say though, the Tories never replaced the stock and as with all governments they don't usually back track on such acts as it's too expensive. The Tories thought short term with the housing, lets sell off, privatise and don't worry about the people it screws up in 10/20/30 years time. Housing and basic services (water, electric, gas) should have never been privatised. The unions should have been reined in. Look at it now, Electricity De France (EDF) own a large chunk of the UK domestic market in the UK and are taking profits out of our economy; perversley EDF were still part owned by their government, short term thinking. Once you've sold the family jewels you'll never get them back and yes Brown did it with the gold reserves.

And that's a good thing, what do tyou think drove our ever increasing personal debt? The housing bubble, free markets. If we all treated houses as homes instead of this mad get on the housing ladder and keep stepping up the UK would be a better place. As it happens the right to buy has removed affordable homes from the market and subsequently seen people doing buy-to-let ths driving prices up further. And I'll join Landford dancing and ****ing on her grave. As for the OP, the greatest woman EVER in the world, please.....

Nick I really don't think that's the case with the FL; other clubs have folded and there will be more. The FL don't have the cash swilling around as the PL does, how would they save Pompey?

Dune's intelligence

Please release there are other internet sites providing these products apart from HMV. Dune is trying to push up the HMV xmas sales thus driving up the share price and his profit ;-)

They weren't dishonest, they bent over backwards to gain some sort of power for the first time in decades. To do that they removed their spine and any morals compass they had. Well not all, fair play to the 20 or 21 that followed through with their promise and didn't get blinded by the headlights of "power". They're ****ed at the next election. Back to a 2 horse race.

Just read it! What I can say is they wouldn't have given Dorset a .25% increase while cutting 8.9% from St Helens for example. I just don't think they're going about these cuts fairly, live in a big city fecked, live in the home counties or other wealthier areas and you're ok. If I were cynical I'd say that they're giving the highest cuts to areas where they probably not going to win seats anyway while protecting their core voters.

I think their first choice keeper is out injured, come on Lambo and Connolly.

I don't, can only base it on what they said. What I can say is they wouldn't have given Dorset a .25% increase while cutting 8.9% from St Helens for example. I just don't think they're going about these cuts fairly, live in a big city fecked, live in the home counties or other wealthier areas and you're ok. If I were cynical I'd say that they're giving the highest cuts to areas where they probably not going to win seats anyway while protecting their core voters.

TDD is it fair? Condems favourite phrase along with progressive that the biggest cuts are being made in the most deprived areas? No dune, I don't have the full list, been along to a nativity play this morning preaching christian ideals, nice to see in a city these days :-)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/dec/13/poorest-councils-face-biggest-cuts The poorest councils face the biggest cuts next year under a settlement announced today that left town halls claiming they are now powerless to protect frontline services from a wave of library, social services and leisure centre closures. Eric Pickles, the communities secretary, today allocated a last-minute emergency £85m fund in an attempt to insulate the poorest areas from the worst cuts next year. But despite his efforts, deprived inner-city areas of London and large cities in the north are facing the most drastic reductions of up to 8.9% this year alone, with the shires and county councils relatively protected by their burgeoning council tax revenue. The Local Government Association labelled the cuts the "toughest in living memory". Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Newham, Manchester, Rochdale, Knowsley, Liverpool, St Helens, Doncaster and South Tyneside are among the 36 local authorities that take the maximum cut of 8.9%. Meanwhile Dorset gets a 0.25% increase in funding and Windsor and Maidenhead, Poole, West Sussex, Wokingham, Richmond upon Thames and Buckinghamshire all get cuts of 1% or below. Self serving, self centered, not sure about greedy. So much for progressive.......typical tories. They could keep a sports centre or two open longer if that fat bastard pickles cut his food bill in half.

Not if they're citizens. There are examples of muslim clerics being banned just as that idiot will be (hopefully).

Come on then smart arse, what's wrong with Cuba? And no it's probably not ideal, but there again nor is the UK, Eire, Spain, Portugal, US.

Yes, option 2 for a reasonable rate of return with less risk, just gotta hope themarket recovery keeps going as it's done over the last year.

Don't put words into my mouth, they're a reasonable socialist model and seem to be coping quite nicely without the US. I'm sure things would be better if the US left their bitter commie hating approach to life in the past where it should be; resigned to history. Look into their cancer survival rates, among the best in the world.

He shouldn't be given access to the UK on the basis of potential disorder and/or preaching hatred. Just as muslim clerics have been barred from entry. "Spiritual views". FFS. Stop trolling please!

In all seriousness Cuba is going along quite nicely considering the lack of trade with the US.

I'd find yourself a good ISA, there are still some about. Define good amount? 3% 5% 7%?