adrian lord

All is not well, that has been evident for a good while now. Board and Koeman friction, and Koeman in turn losing elements of the dressing room.

FFs

Subjectively, the victims might not feel a difference in the level of offence experienced. But in hate crime the law sees the 'hate' aspect as aggravating. Many victims might also agree that the 'hate' aspect aggravates the offensiveness. Don't shoot the messenger.

Where did I say that? I am simply explaining the difference between a hate crime and a non-hate crime. Unlike you I am not hell bent on point-scoring over fellow posters.

^ I guess that would just be plain old being very rude, insensitive and offensive to individuals affected by a tragedy. Rather like, say, taking the **** out of relatives of Zeebrugge Ferry victims would be? Police might arrest you for using "threatening or insulting words or behaviour" or something like that but would struggle to make out it was a hate crime in the Hillsborough example, but could in the Spurs example.

You would need to prove Liverpool or ManU fans were distinct, defineable minority groups/cultures and were targeted with a hate crime because of that. So yes the same offence! LOL

How do they enforce the bans even domestically? Face-recognition technology CCTV surveillance of every turnstile in the UK?

^ strong team today and wants a proper tilt at the cup. Might sign a contract, no rush, depends on board showing ambition and the budget.

A pretty brutally honest assessment from Ron.

Meeting-Gate.

Gay Times?

and, with their noisy (but dickish and cringey) support, it is in danger of becoming a reverse Dellhurst Park

Koeman has done a pretty damn decent job given the evisceration of the team every summer. We would be mad to want to lose him. We aren't going to be spoilt for choice of high calibre managers wanting to come to a business model that emphasises buy --> develop --> sell at 2-3x price annually at the expense of achievement and silverware on the field. Yes he has made errors and dodgy selections and subs (or lack of subs!) at times and this season has been frustrating. Jury is out as to whether he is to blame for the flow of academy grand cru seemingly reducing to a drip and now dry. Maybe the latest vintages are just not up to it. He won't resign. Resign = no pay off. Resign = reputation as quitter. No he will wait to be sacked like they all do, or not renew.

2 hours late according to Telegraph. I don't think he will wear the shirt again.

^ 2 hours in the Telegraph's report just now on ManU. Sorry to say, but I think we have seen the last of Mane in a Saints shirt.

Yea - make 'em do the fandance, winter or summer.

spot on

I see the hand of ManU and Mane's agent in his poor behaviour this week.

ManU are after Mane this window and his poor behaviour in training and lateness are clear indicators of this. Unsettled and agitating to leave.

First class analysis, some depth instead of posturing and blind defence of the Board by the fanboys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68a9xuc-axg whatever the reason, Ron is livid.

Just ignore them. These types just see Saints as a gateway to the promised land of the premiership and untold riches and glory. A means to an end. We do not in ourselves provide untold riches or indeed glory, so they are only ever going to want to stay for 2 seasons max before agitating to move to bigger clubs. Sell in Jan if the price is right. Otherwise make em sweat it out till the summer.

Hasn't that pertained for the last 2 summers already?

The bit about Poch's training intensity and the pointed lack of mentioning that the same pertains now explains and confirms the relative lack of fitness many of us have noticed since Koeman arrived.

Team spirit is at it's weakest for years. Very brittle confidence - go behind and it is game over. Club seems to have lost it's direction/ambition. Club sells £20M players and replace with £10M items - then wonders why we are sliding down the league. No one in the club with any leadership charisma to inspire. Board come across as dull, uninspiring, some even as clowns. Ron, while quite likeable, doesn't get players to run through brick walls for him. It all adds up to surviving this season - just - but being relegated next if we aren't careful.