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I would love to see Neil Allen defend that, especially after his nasty attack on Sibley after the FL awards dinner who RIGHTLY questioned that award. Not only did they rip off the local businesses again, not only did they make low paid inhabitants of Portsmouth unemployed whilst spending fortunes on salaries. They EVEN conned the FL by arranging Family Events AND NOT PAYING FOR THEM. (Oh and where is the troll these days - you know, the one with the assertion that everything was fine, they wouldn't do it all again, The Head of Integrity was in charge....)

Will do

I've done it twice. 1st time was the over a quiet dinner at (in those days) a Berni Inn (honest they used to be the best you could get!) Second time with her best friend and my Mum in close proximity. Each situation and choice depends on the circumstances. With the 2nd one although we had been together 3 years I was struggling to get a business off the ground and had no idea whether it would work or if I would run home with my tail between my legs, so ANY hints from her side had been met with a brick wall of "Simply cannot make a commitment that could see you stuck in a B&B in UK with no future.Once things had settled and before she had a chance THEN I sprung it as a surprise. Point is - I had other stakeholders to consider - her family accepting me (Ancient mad foreigner), but also had the issue on my Kids accepting and being involved in the whole wedding process. All I know is what I did was in Public, but at that moment we were the only two people in the Universe - Pal had been "conned" to take a photo of us and she worked out what was happening faster than my GF and fortunately stood their clicking and crying and saying OMG OMG OMG. So we had the best of all worlds - the quiet together moment - the pictures for the memories and my kids (& her pals) all saying it was the most amazing & romantic thing they had ever seen/heard about. At the end of the day it's about Communication and understanding that it affects the lives or more than just the two of you. All I know is that I get reminded almost every day that I chose the right option

I know we had a thread about the sound of the Engine a while ago, but to think there may be 12 of them still in the wrappers is amazing Sounds like a History Channel special is needed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9203822/Spitfires-buried-in-Burma-during-war-to-be-returned-to-UK.html Now that is an interesting story. Would be astonishing if the Packaging kept them intact all these years. 12 Spits flying in formation again - what a sight that would be

All those trees. Make Fat F\/cks pay extra Green Taxes to be buried. Stop fleecing us poor airline passengers

20,000/25,000 on the pitch last year. The players singing along with the fans. Yeah the players hated that

No, of course you would not, AND if you were stupid enough NOT to know what the answer to that question would be before you even asked it then you must be one blinkered SoB. In those Circumstances you would have to realise what the Impact COULD be. Maybe they don't give a damn as they have no feelings for their Daughter anyway. Maybe they will cut her off from all contact with the family. THOSE circumstances HAVE to be taken into account. Different situation. What infuriated me about BTF was how the hell she could EVER consider that any human would view their Daughter as a Chattel. I was just totally gobsmacked that in this world ANY human could even think to use those words ESPECIALLY when mentioning her own Child and then tried to imply that Tradition and the coming together of two families should be discarded. They are not some Chattel they are 1) a HUMAN being and 2) HOPEFULLY someone you have loved and supported and nurtured and guided into Adult life. Just the use of that word is shocking It has SOD all to do with what the Father wishes, it is everything to do with the relationship between the two people getting married. IF they have an issue with a parent or the Father was to get his Shotgun out then SURELY even with the miserable excuse for an Education system these days, those two people MUST be able to work out how to do their own thing, maybe even move away and say sod the family. Sure that happens in plenty of London Estates with absent parents and of course with moronic or abusive parents. But such a Blanket - It is Wrong? Then WHY THE HELL DID THEY GET MARRIED? Tradition is Victorian - great so just live together - hell I keep reading it is better for you in Tax terms or whatever. The ENTIRE point of a Wedding IS the Tradition. It SHOULD BE the greatest day in the life of ANY young woman (and sometimes the groom) Christ the planning takes up the Bride's entire life for the best part of a year. IF the couple understand the meaning of FAMILY then they understand that the Marriage is about bringing the families together (Hell that's why Warrior Kings married Queens from other Tribes etc way back in Game of Thrones ages). It is TRADITION, it is POLITE. It shows RESPECT for the OPINIONS OF OTHERS. When you throw away respect for "The Institution of Marriage" then save the world a fortune and scrap the whole damned concept. BTF defending her ludicrous position - Bullsh1t. Not once does she consider the idea that perhaps an Anglican marrying a Catholic required "Some Tradition" Not once does she consider that a Jew marrying a Methodist may need some Tradition. Oh no, Tradition is all wrong. Oh no it's all Victorian so it's rubbish. Christ on a Bike

Ah bless, trust one of my golfing buddies to put things into perspective.........

Why are we worried about this? So many learned posters have told us we are going to be in the playoffs seems a bit daft running on the pitch when there will be another match to go. But no, they cannot be wrong they called us idiots for disagreeing with them so it will happen this way

It's one helluva a lot more fun than all those years when we were scraping around the bottom of the different leagues. It's a bus ride, it goes round some bends. And anyway, although we all felt down last night, the Wake thread reminded us all of how lucky we are to live our lives without some of the afflictions that some exhibited.

Utter hypocrisy A wedding is a TRADITIONAL ceremony. You advocate destroying Tradition in one post then say you all went to the Wedding - What utter rubbish - how can you support a system that dates back thousands of years when you say on the same page "That is so Victorian"... So, according to your hatred of all such matters Traditional, we can assume everyone in the congregation wore Jeans and Hoodies.

Totally. Not only that but you have to think of your entire future together. Everyone needs to be on the same side, it's FAMILY FFS. Dad is supposed to pay the bill and according to the actual Wedding Service IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE HIS DAUGHTER AWAY. It's one of the most momentous days in a Dad's life and that's "Victorian" Jesus H, speechless

Was referring to my daughter's one actually old chap. But it should still be done properly - Ask Dad first, That is just etiquette. FSiL did it all the right way, chose somewhere special while they were here on holiday here. Could have picked anywhere but as he said "With our jobs we're always going to posh restaurants and just needed to find something that wasn't associated with our normal day to day work lives that she would not see coming Mine was well quiet and monster romantic

Ah but that indicates a situation where you may not be certain about the outcome of asking the question. In which case I'd opine that if you don't know what the answer ids before you ask, then something ain't quite right yet in the relationship. Agree that it should NOT be a big production, wasn't advocating that, it just has to be the RIGHT production. Again, if you don't know what would make it extra special for her then why the hell are you still together?

Worried that some of our defence are mentally tired with this run in. Likewise as I expressed before the palace game think CM's have almost run themselves into the ground. At least have an extra day to recover but NA will have to look closely at Martin for Fonte & Harding for Fox. Yesterday showed the CM problem - Hammond went off and that left Guly in CM... Hmm. HOPE MS is coming back from his cuts Am sure we have the quality to win, just worried about the number of games. One good thing, will be back listening to Saints Player & the reassuring what we don't of DM. I am starting to truly fear trips to the pub to watch us play. Luckily I'm on a stag next Saturday in Munich so no way I'll be taking time out to find no damned sports bar. Still need 6 points from 3 games, and still believe that will be done

It should be done properly. Ask the father for his daughter's hand first. But tell them to keep it a secret. Then (for perfection) try and engineer it somewhere Romantic (obviously) or Memorable/Unusual (difficult but fro eg On top of The Burj Khalifa here - future Son in Law's choice) For the utmost in wow factor for the future, also try and engineer all of that in front of her closest friend(s) (who also must NOT know) Trust me, that works a treat.

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Nope. We mentioned that many times in the pub - Leeds game in reverse

No. I said we LOST because Jose Fonte had a nightmare. He showed he probably is NOT good enough to make the next step up. Danny Fox, who has PROBABLY been our most consistent player in the last 3 or 4 games stood off his man and allowed him to cross TWICE. Those were schoolboy errors. IMHO they were players who are feeling the strain of the games coming thick and fast. However, the POINT remains, that we made mistakes that led to stupid goals being conceded in a game that we had ENOUGH shots on target and chances to win, FFS even our TV commentator said AFTER 25 MINUTES that the Reading Keeper had already earnt MoM Criticise Sharp for being ineffective in the box - BUT IT WAS A CLEAR PENALTY 10 seconds before they scored their 3rd (TV words not mine). He was also bundled off the ball 2 or 3 times before that which could (on another day) also have been given. Reading won sh1t happens, but we still played them off the park, Congrats to them on their smash & grab raid and bring Martin or Harding in for Tuesday,

No you are talking crap. Lallana missed a sitter, Jos SHOULD have scored a hat trick - on another day we could have scored 5 or 6. This was not a Rochdale away performance this was a day when we played the better football and were undone by schoolboy errors. 3 shots on target 3 goals? ALL from defensive errors. STFU Alps we lost it happens.

Thought he did well tonight when he came on. Clearly CM is not his normal position but he moved the ball on well. I'd have FAR preferred him to be in the box BUT he was replacing DH so was obviously under orders

Agree DD there was only one occassion where he didn't actually get a ball into the box. You could critique him that not enough balls got past the 2nd defender but then that was the fault of the support players. Also thought Guly did well in CM - not his normal position and although I (like everyone else in the pub) was baying for him to get into the box, he was clearly under orders and covering for Hammond who looked like his legs had gone.

What a truly stupid post. We played Reading off the park. They created nothing compared to us, but some defensive howlers by what looked like mental fatigue from players who have been on top form of late cost us the game

Kourva. That's Polish for sh1t 2 really bad errors each from Jose & Fox led to their goals. Twice Fox did not get tight enough and allowed the cross to come in, and. let's face it one mistimed leap and one howler from Jose cost us the game. We had 2 cracking chances - they went & scored We had one nailed on penalty for the foul on Sharp - They scored. That's life. Sh1t happens, Blue Line But I think Jose & Fox may need a rest