Johnny Bognor

But you agree that there is more to foreign investment, rather than just being in or being out of the EU?

The UK will absorb immigrants based on the needs of the country, as has always happened. Whether that be Irish Navvies to build our railways, or commonwealth people to rebuild the country post WW2. Immigrants will come, as they always have, based on their skill sets and what they bring to the party. My mum was an Irish immigrant who came here in the 1960's and spent most of her life working in the NHS. This happened before the EU, believe it or not. My father worked all over Europe, living in Madrid (1 year) and Paris (5 years) before the EU. Another remainer myth. The vast majority of immigrants working within the NHS are not from the EU. What's sad is the continual remainer scaremongering. Many of the leftie remainers want the UK to fail. They want recession. They want people to suffer. Just so they can say "told you so". I would put a LOL, but it isn't very funny.

I disagree. Boeing are now investing here, creating 2000 jobs. Others will too. Here's why... 1. Remember, that with the strength of the dollar against the pound, it makes the UK a cheaper place to invest. 2. We will soon have the lowest corporate tax rate of any major economy. Our rate was already scheduled to come down to 17pc, and that is now being accelerated to 15pc. That compares to 29pc in Germany and 33pc in France. The rate of capital gains tax for entrepreneurs is just 10pc, meaning that anyone who starts a company here can keep almost all of what they make. Despite what some people on the Left think, no one starts a business to make the government rich. They want to be rewarded for the stress involved. In the UK, they will be. 3. The UK represents 40% of all startups in Europe. We have lighter regulation, so it is simpler to set up a company here than anywhere else in Europe. According to the World Bank, the UK is already the 17th easiest country in the world in which to start a business. France is 32nd , Italy 50th and Germany is 107th – and that is before you get into the five years it takes to close one down. If we can get ourselves close to top-rated New Zealand we will be more attractive to European start-ups. You see, it's not as simple as being in the EU equals investment and being outside doesn't.... Other factors include the fact that we are blessed with the English language and as a whole have a skilled, educated and flexible workforce. We are still an attractive investment. More attractive than many countries inside the EU. For instance, would you setup an advanced R&D facility in the UK (where we have the skills and the environment to support it) or say Greece? Let's take France as another example. If you were a US company, would you invest in France where it is impossible to hire and fire, or would you invest in the UK with a more flexible labour market and similar labour laws, along with a shared langauge, without taking into account our attitude to start ups and the entrepreneurial spirit, which is streets ahead of France. Our future prosperity will be better served by creating a knowledged base economy with entrepreneurial flair, where we become net exporters, because people around the world (and inside the EU) want to buy our products and services.

This kind of line is getting a tad annoying. With no deal, exports could be hampered. But to suggest there would be no exports at all is beyond ridiculous. With the lower value of the pound, our exports would already be cheaper than they were, even if 10% tarrifs were imposed. Average WTO tarrifs are 3-4%. Granted there would be more paperwork and red tape but this would work both ways, but no more than there is for the US, China and all other exporters to the EU, who dont have the luxury of a trade deal (which includes all of the worlds top 10 economies). We would have tarrifs too... a kind of tax on imports. Perhaps encouraging people to buy British and buy local.

As cameron said in jest yesterday, they have had resignations, nominations, selection and coronation. All in the space of two weeks. Yet at a time when strong opposition is needed, the other lot cant even agree on the rules.

Yep, listened to that. Corbyn... what a complete and utter ****

Indeed, but it does help exports. If we applied WTO tarrifs to exports to the EU, they would be cheaper than they were pre-referendum with no tarrifs. Yes, the cost of imports would increase but people may think about buying British or buying local, which is no bad thing. The fall in the £ after leaving the ERM was one of the key factors that led to economic growth in the late nineties early noughties. So although the exchange rates are all being played as negative, there are significant upsides.

Siemens backtracking on their pre-brexit stance... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36771595

But whilst it is down to the Euro, as opposed to the EU, we would still be expected to help clear up the mess.

It's more to do with the Euro than the EU.... a complete basket case idea from the beginning.

Genuine LOL

The aircraft deal is old news, but this bit isn't... "The US plane maker intends to build a new £100 million facility for the P-8A Poseidon military aircraft at RAF Lossiemouth in Moray. It will make the UK its European base for training, maintenance, repair and overhaul across its defence fixed-wing and rotary platforms. Boeing has doubled its UK workforce over the past five years to more than 2,000 people. The plans announced at the Farnborough International Airshow in Hampshire are expected to result in a further 2,000 jobs." Why are remainers like you only looking for bad news and almost want the UK to fail?? .... whatever the result of the referendum, win or lose, I want the UK to prosper...

Boeing and the UK government have announced a deal involving the creation of 2,000 jobs and an aircraft contract..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36763212

Fair comparison. Maybe they just have the same smarmy smile. Right now this country needs strong government and a strong opposition. We have neither.... a safe pair of hands may act as a stop gap but in this period of uncertainty, i look to the politicians to sort ther sh it out.

i dont know if it's just me but Leadsom reminds me of John Redwood. May isnt ideal by any stretch of the imagination, but she's been round the block a bit. But is this the best the tories can come up with? Sad state of affairs when the country needs strong leadership.

I see this quite a lot but only the SNP's opposed the EU referendum bill. Every tory, leftie, liberal and ukip mp voted for it. or am I missing something???

... assuming of course that staying in is not a gamble?? The eurozone is about to implode. Greece is bust, italian banks are on their last legs, the German banking system is teetering. All of the key decisions over the next few years will be related to what is best for the eurozone, to keep the euro alive. As we were not part of the eurozone, these would have massive implications for the UK. So its not the case that remain = safe, whilst leave = gamble. Early on in the campaign I was 50/50 possibly slightly remain as leave appeared to be a risk. Better to play it safe. But then i realised that remain was not that safe afterall. Its what tipped the balance for me. Being in control of the levers when the proverbial hits the fan... and it will

It's a bit simplistic to suggest that it was the EU that turned things around. After joining and towards the end of the 70's, when we went to the IMF with our begging bowl, Britain was on its knees. Manufacturing was in terminal decline and the unions were destroying the economy. I know I will get some flack for this, but thatchers reforms did more to turn our fortunes around than eec membership in the 80's. Had the unions not been challenged, the eec would not have been enough to turn things around. After the recession at the end of the 80's along with membership of the ERM, british companies were forced to become more efficient. This laid the foundation for growth in the late 90's which was inherited and continued under blair and brown. The debt fueled boom of the naughties did as much for economic growth as the EU. The EEC may have had 'some' positive effect, but to pretend is was the cure of all ills, is a bit naive. The big game changer in turning things round was thatcher, love her or hate her...

LOL that would present an unfair advantage .... an opinion based upon unreliable opinion polls is of course an opinion worth having. Either that, or grasping at straws LOL

Errrr, from the book of English for dummies, "You're out of touch with the majority of the country" is a statement of fact. If you had said, "You may be out of touch" then fair enough. But you didn't. Intellectuals 0 - 1 Common Sense & Voice of Reason

Yes this should be presented as fact, because the opinion polls before the referendum were spot on

You make a great point in your post, but let yourself down by preceeding it with petty name calling. "Thick c**t" would normally be the reserve of someone who has lost the argument... Also out of interest, where did you get this "pal" thing from? It seems to be a recent addition to your posting. If my memory serves me correctly, I never remember Einstein using such terms of endearment. That aside, just a bit of a friendly observation... it is making you sound like a bit of a knob

We do send that gross. The lie is that we could spend that on the NHS. Only the net figure could be spent, but this has been discussed everywhere. The 66m babies and children that can't really be sold to slipped under the radar.

The remainers and remain campaign have been banging on about 500m throughout... and continue to do so. Let's quote from the horses mouth... http://www.strongerin.co.uk/get_the_facts Just scroll down to the bit that says.... In the EU Single Market, over 1 million UK businesses trade without export or import charges, or paperwork, to 500 million customers in the EU (Sources: HMRC and Treasury). Population of the EU is 500 million aprox. The UK is 65 million approx. So I make the net benefit of 435 million 'consumers' available to the UK, aside from their own. However, no one really mentions this, but 66 million of these 435 million are in fact under 14 years of age and are not full on consumers. When was the last time you traded with a 3 year old? So we're really looking at 369 million teenage and adult consumers, that we lose the ability to sell to. The remainers have been massively overstating the single market. We're talking simple GCSE level demographics here....

It's dissapointing. Now of all times a strong government is needed and a strong opposition is needed to hold them to account. Both tories and labour need to get their sh it together