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  1. Oh dear oh dear, what are they doing to the game I love? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1270208/Charles-Sale-Football-League-breakaway-threat-parachute-row.html Private talks have taken place among Championship clubs about a breakaway from the Football League following the decision of the lower divisions to reject the Premier League package of parachute and solidarity payments worth £400million over three years. Feelings are running so high that there is talk of taking up the offer, worth £48m in phased payments to relegated clubs and £4.6m a year to the rest of the division, and splitting from the Football League in what would bring about a Premier League Two in all but name.
  2. Matey in todays paper, has lost his job. He was a councilor, and refused to council a gay couple over their sexual problems. It comes to something when this sh1t happens in trhis country. Everyone has rights, except 'Mr Average'.
  3. It appears, that the cheating referees are to blame for Poor smouth not getting into Europe via the 'fairplay', and that Burnley might;) scumslayer Posted on 29/04/2010 19:12 Even Burnley have a chance to play in Europe Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message If The Sun get their finger out their arse and keep an eye on this one, they could blow a lid on the "refereeing" that we are put through every week. What do they have to lose? Liverpool hate them anyway.
  4. The court asked for this, it was submitted to the court, it therefore, is now a legal document.
  5. You've gotta laugh.....haven't you? GazaLaad #1 27 Apr 2010 20:14 Complain | Prev | Next | Signed: April 2010 Portsmouth in europe.. ... Posts: 1 Trialist How can Man City sign a keeper but Portsmouth cant play in the Euopa League?? What happened to rules are rules ?? If your a big team it appears rules donat always apply.
  6. The man who withheld the charity money, was.................. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Azougy-criticised-as-Pompey-fail.6258547.jp
  7. This is a posted response by the group of Poor smouth fans, who are holding meetings with AA. As you will be aware, a number of supporters groups have been meeting with the Administration team of UHY Hacker Young to discuss the clubs current insolvenct. Following internal misgivings about the progress of the information we sent the following message to the Administration team. We have received an initial response but are waiting for a more complete statement about whether the team wish to consider the process. Fans representatives would like to place on record their disappointment at the manner in which meetings with the administration team of UHY Hacker Young have been conducted to date. Whilst we appreciate that the administrators are under no obligation to meet with supporters, the administration team stand to benefit as much as supporters from a full, frank and open dialogue. The general feeling among the group following the first two meetings was that the messages we were hearing from one member of the team were very different to the messages being relayed to the media by another. It has also to be said that it was felt very little had been achieved by the administration team. Following the third meeting with two of the three co-administrators, even more questions have arisen over the transparency with which these meetings are being conducted. Among our chief concerns are; 1.Supporter's representatives were told at the first two meetings with Mr Kiely that the overall debt was £78m. Three days after the second meeting Mr Andronikou published a debt figure £22m higher. 2.At the third meeting we were given a “definitive” break down of the debt, amounting to a total of £99.8m. Shortly afterwards again Mr Andronikou revealed a figure £22m higher to the media. 3.Following the initial meeting, a comment from Mr Kiely was excised from the minutes under the guise of making purely grammatical corrections. Although an apology was received, this change was transacted in a far from open and transparent manner. 4.At the third meeting the validity of Sasha Gaydamaks £32m loans to the club was raised. Mr Andronikou stated that all these loans were visible in the “last published independently audited accounts” and therefore beyond question. However, the recently issued Report to Creditors shows that £22.6m of these loans were not loans to Mr Gaydamak until August 2009, at least six months after the last independently audited accounts were issued. There is a further £2.5m tranche which is the subject of a subrogated right of security claim by Mr Gaydamak which did not arise until at least October 2009. Therefore, over £25m of the Gaydamak debt is NOT in the last independently audited accounts. This discrepancy is very difficult to accept. 5.Mr Andronikou claimed at the Thursday 8th April meeting that his team had seen the bank transactions and demonstrated that Portpins loans had come into the business and not left the business to any associates. However, he also subsequently revealed that he did not yet have access to the Fuglers accounts. As the club was operating from the Fuglers account at this time this raises the question of how the administration team could make this assertion? 6.Mr Andronikou said that significant copy fees were being paid to Fuglers for the bank records. As the club was paying Fuglers for banking services; Why is the club paying again for copies of records it is surely entitled to? What happened to the clubs copies of these records? 7.At the first meeting we asked Mr Kiely what the date was by which we had to exit administration to avoid a further points deduction. At the second meeting we asked this again and clearly Kiely had made no effort to ascertain this information. At the third meeting we asked again and were told “Must agree CVA by the time the fixtures for next season are published on 17th June” by Mr Andronikou. This is clearly incorrect and no such deadline exists for agreeing a CVA with regard to points deductions for season 2010/2011. We feel this speaks to a serious want of rigour as this information is freely available. 8.We asked at the first two meetings whether Mr Chainrais status as a secured creditor had been accepted by HMRC in line with HMRC barristers comments that this remained a matter likely to require adjudication at a later time. At the first two meetings Mr Kiely denied any knowledge of such a question mark over Mr Chainrais status. At the third meeting Mr Andronikou accepted that this query had been made but claimed it was simply a face-saving exercise by HMRC. We feel this demonstrates a clear lack of communication within the team and also fails to alleviate concerns over whether Chainrai really is a secured creditor. 9.At the first meeting we asked whether a meeting of creditors would be convened before the March 26th deadline we understood to have been imposed by the judge at our winding up hearing in March. We were told by Mr Kiely that no such deadline was specified in the consent order and promised a copy of the consent order would be sent immediately following the meeting. This has taken two months to produce, and at time of writing has still not arrived. At the second meeting we were given to understand the administrators could wait 10 weeks and again we asked for the consent order. At the third meeting Mr Andronikou specified a period of 12 weeks although he mentioned an informal meeting had been held sometime previously. In the Report to Creditors it transpires that the administrators are now claiming a meeting of creditors was held on March 25th. Please explain this discrepancy. 10.At the April 8th meeting we were given no intimation of the pending appointment of Mr Lampitt as CEO which was announced the following morning. We would not expect to be given the name of any candidate before one was appointed but it would certainly have been possible for the team to share with us that an appointment was imminent. As it was, we were not informed an appointment was even being sought. Again, this reflects poorly on the commitment to openness and transparency we were given by the administration team. 11.We were told that no-one would be given access to the data room without the members of their party being named and proof of funds shown to the administration teams satisfaction. The Lloyd group were given this access despite Andronikou claiming that he retained concerns over identities and proof of funds. Notwithstanding the weak proviso that “they were not allowed to take any information out”, this is completely inconsistent. 12.Mr Andronikou claimed that two groups initially provided proof of funds and these have now merged to form one and this gave him concern. He was absolutely unable to explain this discrepancy, as logic would suggest that two groups with proof of funds merging to form one group was a positive development. There is also great concern that Andronikou appears to be adopting a publicly negative attitude towards the Lloyd group, whilst asking them to observe a complete media silence. 13.Mr Andronikou explained that one part of the raison d'etre for Peter Storries continued employment by Portsmouth Football Club was his ability to advise on player sales. Again we were not informed that Icon Sports Management had been retained to perform this role, and this invites questions over openness and transparency. 14.Redundancy payments had not been made to the employees who left the club which is most regrettable. 15.We were told at the second meeting by Mr Kiely that no further redundancies were planned. At the third meeting Mr Andronikou more or less stated that further redundancies were inevitable. Again, this speaks to either a lack of communication between the team or a lack of candour to supporters representatives. 16.It took over two weeks to agree the minutes for this third meeting. We have received a request for the taking of minutes to be dispensed with as it is claimed that reading and agreeing them is too time consuming. This is unacceptable. The taking of minutes is a basic discipline for any business meeting, and it is felt by supporters representatives that the minutes have been critical in highlighting the many discrepancies outlined here. The output from these meetings so far has been very disappointing in terms of both information gleaned and the administration teams ability to live up to the standards of openness and transparency they promised. Whilst we have every desire to work with the team to help ensure supporters are on board with the club and working with them during this difficult time it is imperative that the administration team raise their game substantially in these areas if the process is to continue.
  8. Phil, Phil, Phil, I think you're being very unfair to the players, They may be greedy gits, they may condone the fleecing of various charities, they may be at Poor smouth through nefarious means they even support their moaning whinging manager. But Phil, they have dug into their pockets, to pay the wages of their kit man. Christ sakes, who else have they got to hang clean towels on their pegs, and pick up their dirty clothes!
  9. Ah yes, but they will more than likely still be in administration, what say you?
  10. Not the impression I had got, what with a 'special BVI' account being set up!. According to a few of their 'BFITW', they can buy at a discount now!
  11. This has been said so many times, but can someone please nail this down! Are Poor smouth allowed to sell tickets for next season whilst in administration, I thought that they were not allowed......Anyone?
  12. Any quotes on the latest revelations about the cheats you support, Corp Ho ho ho! Don't defend the indefensible, I've just had a quick on a few of your forums, and on the whole, it appears to still be the fault of all and sunder, and not your 'club'. Try being contrite, instead of smug, the footballing world is waking up to the smell of fish in Portsea, and you lot still can't see the wood for the trees. Sadly, should you survive, you may still get the chance to have your web footed fans at Wembley again, as it looks like Chelski will be champions, as well as winning the FA cup. With luck though, you will have ceased to exist.
  13. Yes it is, and it will be even better if Poopey get thrown out of the league, as it will either be 2 down from the PL, or four up from the L1. Fingers crossed eh!
  14. Alps! your view on that goal?
  15. **News Flash** 'Alps in attack on Pardew'. Why don't you get off his case man:mad:
  16. There's more! not one, but two cancer charities! http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Cancer-charities-owed-thousands-by.6250652.jp The money owed to Harbour Cancer Support Centre in Gosport was raised in a raffle and auction held at a Fratton Park function in March last year.
  17. This has always been my stance, I see no reason to change that opinion.
  18. Because Alps said so, and woe betide Mr Pardew should he fail to deliver. The SWF fan of the year has spoken.
  19. Administrator insists fight to play in Europe goes on Published Date: 22 April 2010 Pompey's administrator today said the club would fight on for the right to play in Europe. Andrew Andronikou spoke out after the FA and Premier League said in a joint statement earlier today that they would not consider any late applications for a UEFA licence. And he insisted: 'We've earned the right to play in Europe'. Mr Andronikou said the club was still working on its application and had not had any communication from the authorities to suggest the bid would be turned down. 'I find the comments unusual considering our application has not gone in yet,' he said. 'We are still in the process of complying and providing all the information required for us to apply to them. ;I've not spoken to anybody regarding this. We put in a preliminary application and they came back and said "just make an application". Our lawyers are handling the application. 'They (the FA and Premier League) have asked us for strict criteria and we are still looking into that. 'We've earned the right to play in Europe so we will make the application, albeit belated.' Mr Andronikou said the application would be with the FA and Premier League by next week. Asked why he thought the comments had been made to suggest Pompey's application was already doomed, he said: 'I would ask you to draw your own conclusions about where it's coming from. Obviously there is some pressure being put on the board of the Premier League by one or two of its members.' Portsmouth would have qualified to play in the Europa League next season after reaching the FA Cup final against Chelsea - who will be in the Champions League. A joint statement from the FA and Premier League said: 'The FA and Premier League have confirmed to the administrators of Portsmouth Football Club that they shall not consider any late application for granting of a UEFA Club Licence for the 2010-11 season.' The decision means that the team who finish seventh in the Premier League - currently Liverpool - would play in the Europa League instead. Some of the replies from the blue phew, defy belief!
  20. Lol, I wish I had an invoice with them for £2m, that they had paid. I could then request it was paid again!
  21. I liked it all, very amusing:D just a taster below:D ........But what catches the eye in the report - which spells many players' names wrong - are the smaller debts. The Fratton Park club owes the Guernsey Scout Association £697, Bognor Regis FC £230, Chichester College £60, Pukka Pies £40, Qatar Airways just 20p - and, best of all, 1p to Proton Southern Ltd. Andronikou was expecting in the region of £60-70m but the reality was that the debts were double that. Yes, it is that bad. So bad that there is a jaw-dropping revelation on virtually every page. However there is one that sums up the madness of it all perfectly. You can find it in Appendix A, entitled "Abbreviated Profit and Loss Accounts". It shows the South Coast club's payroll for 2009 was a lip-smacking £65,187,128, :rolleyes:which dwarfed the club's total income of only £59,920,362. So staff wages accounted for 108.79 per cent of income that year before any other bills were paid - or not paid as it turned out. Now that is what you call a sinking ship............
  22. Good read. Like you, I believe that the original S of A will come back into play. We are only a few now;), but I aim to convert the fallen;)
  23. Was double A on SSN? Waiting for creditors to contact him to confirm monies owing (or not) and get accurate figure. Final debt to them could then go up or down. Says maybe accounts not updated by club properly where creditors have claimed to already have been paid. He doesn't understand the Spurs/Begovic arrangement but is not surprised by it. Pompey will pay £1m only if they have an obligation to do so. Didn't give straight answer on whether this would be settled as football debt i.e. paid before unsecured creditors. Denys inflating liabilities. Awaiting offer from Lloyd group within next few weeks. Other groups awaiting outcome of CVA. He is mumbling so hard to understand him.
  24. As I said nick, the S of A is a legal document now, I don't think you can just add things as you think of them.
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