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Meanwhile.....on planet Bob Crow.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16174789 London Underground drivers to strike on Boxing Day Tube drivers will hold 24-hour strikes on four days, including Boxing Day, in a row over pay, a union has said. Aslef balloted its 2,200 members over demands for triple pay and a day off lieu for working on the bank holiday. Staff will walk out on Boxing Day, 16 January, 3 and 13 February. Aslef said 92% voted for industrial action, but Tube bosses said 42% voted to strike. London Underground (LU) said it had asked the union to abandon its strike threat over "an outrageous pay claim". Services were severely disrupted last year when drivers walked out on Boxing Day after talks collapsed. The union has said it wanted "adequate compensation" for working on Boxing Day and it wanted Tube drivers to be able to volunteer to work on such an "unsociable" day. A statement from the union said: "The whole dispute has been about seeking equitable quality time off for our members but recognising those who do operate the service may need to be incentivised. "The company is currently offering no additional payments for working on Boxing Day. The union says its members may need 'substantial incentives' to volunteer. "If the dispute is not resolved, the union intends to take further action on 16 January and 3 and 13 February." LU said Tube workers already "earn a premium" for working on Boxing Day. A spokesman said an agreement in 1992 specified drivers would earn about £44,500, work a 35-hour week and have 43 days' leave. As part of the agreement, tube drivers have to work some public holidays, including Boxing Day.

The article goes on to suggest that things aren't as bad as perhaps the headline figures show and that 'hanging on in there' through the storm might be the best policy...but there again...who knows...? Most unlike the Guardian to highlight the negative rather than the positive in their headline.... ;-)

14:23 [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: thanks everyone - hope it's been informative and good to speak to a few of you at least. sorry for not getting to all the questions but will try and come on again soon. best wishes and pup for the weekend.....we're waiting..... DL [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

That wasn't in response to your post sir. That photo just caught my eye on the BBC home page!

It's ok here

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:17[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From sean if aa is basicaly in charge we can say goodbye to our best player then aa sol our best players last time can u confirm if he will be selling them in jan or not[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:20[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: the directors of the club are in charge of it - PFC is not in admin. the administrator is in charge of CSI assets. this is very different to the situation in 2010. and no plans for a firesale in january! [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] PFC weren't one of CSI's assets....?

Charming....

14:17 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From sean if aa is basicaly in charge we can say goodbye to our best player then aa sol our best players last time can u confirm if he will be selling them in jan or not [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:04 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Andy Who is currently the 'owner' of portsmouth fc? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:05 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: the shares in pfc (2010) ltd are now controlled by the administrator of CSI - i think this info is on our website. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:01[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From luvrocket how does working at PFC (greatest club of all time!) compare to working at the FA and when we win on saturday will you dance a jig round the pitch afterwards?[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]14:04[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: it's considerably more interesting! i consider it a huge privilege to lead the club, i work with great people and it is a real pleasure to be part of the club, despite the various challenges we've had to face. if anyone had been at our xmas party last week they would understand why i won't be dancing in public anytime soon tho! [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Christmas Party? Where did they get the cash for that....?

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:59 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Richard1 are the club still due a remaining 2 sets of parachute payment from the premier league over the next 2 years? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:59 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: yes we are due to receive parachute payments for the next two seasons after this. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:54[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Denmead Dave Please comment upon PFC2010 honouring the agreement to pay LOCAL businesses owed less than £2500, which you yourself appear to be querying in The News today.This is appalling Mr Lampitt.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:58[/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: I understand the frustration for small creditors affected by this. The concern for me is protecting the club as it was not our undertaking to pay 100% of these debts and we shouldn't be the target of these concerns. We continue to work with the Liquidators to resolve this as soon as possible. It's a difficult one for the club as it causes lots of bad pr which we could do without but at the same time I have to ensure I protect the club both legally and financially.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] In other words "I don't care about the local businesses that lost out....not our problem guv"....disgraceful.

Try not to use cooked bread related products in your name....I think they've cottoned onto that one.... ;-)

13:54 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Denmead Dave Please comment upon PFC2010 honouring the agreement to pay LOCAL businesses owed less than £2500, which you yourself appear to be querying in The News today.This is appalling Mr Lampitt. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:50 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Chris Ford what about the points Deduction are you confident of avoiding the Sporting Sanction [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:52 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: i am confident about this although obviously it is not up to me and the league has a due process to go through in making their assessment. i said in my blog that there are a number of reasons why i don't think our circumstances should warrant a points penalty so maybe have a look at that on our website as there are a few more details in there. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:53 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Homer From the aritcile in the news this morning, it appears that none of the unsecured creditors have been paid a single penny yet. Cna you confirm if this is true [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:54 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: This is true. The payment process and schedule were set out as part of the CVA last year with the first payment being due in April 2012. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:45 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Charles in Yorkshire Good afternoon David - the article re payments due to our creditors in The News this morning reminded us of the commiments we have in coming out of administration. can you assure supporters that we have this finaicial commitment covered (eg; by forthcoming parachute payments). I ask this with concern now that CSI are no longer supporting us finacially. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:49 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: Obviously not that impressed with the front page of the News this morning - am I allowed to say that on their webchat?! The reality is that these payments are nothing new. We've known about them since the club emerged from Admin, i think they were in the public domain back then and they have always been part of our business plan. I remain confident that we will be able to meet our ongoing commitments Charles. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:32 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext viewer_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From lew11 hello david,when did you first get an inkling all was not well with csi ? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD=class: chatmsgtime, bgcolor: #F6F6F6]13:35 [/TD] [TD=class: chatmsgtext altcaster_text, bgcolor: #FFFFFF][TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]David: tbh the events of the last few weeks have been a bolt from the blue. if you'd asked me (and most fans) a month ago i think most would have said that they were pretty happy with csi ownership and the way the club was moving forward. i still think we are in good shape as a club despite what's happened which is why i'm confident we will work our way through this. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

13:24 [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Comment From Sam Why is Portsmouth's support so bad? Only 12,000 odd against Peteborough. How do you attract more fans? [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2073968/Britain-needs-plan-Great-Escape-Europe.html Britain needs to plan its Great Escape from Europe By Janice Atkinson-small Last updated at 11:03 AM on 14th December 2011 Britain is in course for The Great Escape. That’s leaving the EU. Cracks are becoming evident in the plan to save the euro, the markets are wising up to it and the non-existent bailout plan is doomed. We can now save ourselves and our financial markets. Last week’s summit was supposed to restructure the euro to avert 'disorderly collapse', and it failed. The euro states cannot even win German agreement to monetary easing or the flotation of emergency eurobonds. Nothing has been done to rescue the euro, except what is always done in such crises: a move to 'ever-closer union'. There is now a German-led 'unequal treaty' imposing a battery of budgetary and fiscal disciplines on Greece, Italy, Spain and possibly France, in the hope of calming markets. This in turn means decisions over budgets, taxes, benefits and transfers taken away from elected national parliaments and put in the hands of ministerial councils and Brussels commissioners. This is unenforceable. Already governments in Ireland, Portugal, Greece and Italy that sought outside help and austerity in return have been toppled by their electorates. The ministerial councils and commissioners may have control over those governments for the time being but, so far, not over the ballot boxes. How are the markets reacting? Bond markets are already seizing up. As they wait for clarity from the region’s leaders, banks and investors are simply sitting on cash. Following recent data that showed a decline in Eurozone money supply, figures out yesterday proved banks are hoarding cash at the European Central Bank (ECB). Overnight deposits hit €346bn (£291bn) – the highest level since the period after Greece’s 2010 bailout. Lenders have seen funding lines dry up: data provided by Dealogic shows that the market for bank paper is in deep freeze. The volume of unsecured debt sales for the second half of this year is down more than fourfold versus the €232.9bn sold in the first half. Even sales of covered bonds, the most secure kind of debt, have plunged, from €177.4bn in the first half to €64.5bn in the second. And banks have to pay more to issue: the three-month London interbank offered rate (Libor), a vital cost benchmark, has risen by more than a third to over one per cent this year. The markets are hoping that the sticking plasters that have been applied over the past two years will work. It is in their interests as the debts that some countries have run up cannot be repaid and the creditors cannot afford to write off the debts. The new treaty is not in the markets interest as it will provide for additional regulation that will mean higher capital reserve requirements for banks, and so they will be able to lend less and so that will reduce potential for growth. The eurozone cannot survive, two years after the crisis began, progress remains as elusive as ever. The banks and markets are playing hardball. The electorates are revolting yet the politicians continue to play to their own national politics, this is why it will not survive. What should happen next for Britain is that we should start to plan for The Great Escape. We can then plan for real growth with a low tax and regulation economy; release our businesses from Brussels’ red tape and bureaucracy; repeal the Agency Workers’ Directive and save hundreds of thousands of jobs; free our financial services industry from euro regulatory controls; take back control of what remains of our fishing industry and trade with the rest of the world. Oh, and Europe, because we will still buy their Mercedes, BMWs and excellent food and wine.

Indeed. And what's stopping him/them doing it again in April when the first payment is due?

As per that earlier article posted..... ....what is stopping AA from simply "re-structuring" the CVA, thus extending the "deadline(s)"....?

There are as many reasons to get a bit angry and throw stones at shop windows when Labour are in power as there are when the Tories are in power but "the poor people" bide their time until the Tories are in power so that it gets portrayed as a fight against the "nasty tories" Fact (ish)

Don't worry - you're in good company....I've been struggling to keep up with this saga for over 3 years now... :-)