Saintandy666

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/datablog/2012/aug/08/olympics-2012-team-gb-vs-team-usa Good little piece of on the US vs. GB medal counts here.

That's fantastic!

You think someone like Oscar Pistorius doesn't train like an elite athlete? With that training and the HUGE advantage of the prosthetic limbs surely he should be miles ahead! He got there on merit because he qualified.

If having prosthetic limbs is such an advantage, why don't amputee runners consistently beat the times of non-amputee runners?

Pistorius isn't there because he is disabled. He is there because he qualified with one of the best times on his own merit in the South African trials.

You might have been able to if you had practised your trumpet for years and years to be able to play at a high enough standard to join said band.

But AV wasn't what they wanted the Referendum on. I think if it was a referendum on PR, it would have been won. There were a lot of erroneous arguments about AV though, for example the cost argument which the No campaign pretty much admitted was a lie after they won.

A lot of what the Lib Dems have achieved is moderation of tory policies, but it's hard to sell that to the public.

I think it was a UCL study which said 75%. I agree with you that's how they are perceived and I can't see any way out of that perception and the Lib Dems are going to get a massive thrashing at the next election. I think they will lose over half of their seats down to 25ish. But they will have learnt and lot and I think gained more solid supporters rather than the somewhat flimsy support of recent elections. What this news really means however is PM Miliband.

Yes, but their policies aren't ultra-left wing even if they are left wing of your own personal views. They aren't ultra left wing. Their views are based on the principles of Social Liberal Democracy. So a fair constitution giving as much say to the people as possible, so that includes 100% elected parliament and voting system that actually reflects how the country as a whole has voted. And then a state which enables everyone to compete equally. Not a hand out, but a hand-up to those who are unfortunate in their circumstances! They aren't evil.

Answer my actual post! It's all very well putting that remark, but what do you have to say to the facts? 75% of their manifesto has been implemented.

Then you know absolutely nothing about the Lib Dems. They were formed as a centrist party. Nick Clegg himself said to me it was evident people perceived the Lib Dems as some sort of 'SWP' equivalent which was ridiculous.

There's not really an escape now. I expect after the next election, another hung parliament with the Lib Dems on about 25ish seats holding the balance of power. They will probably go into coalition with Labour which is what I suspect they expected before the election. However, when it became clear that wasn't possible or constitutionally right, they did the correct thing and put aside their differences with the Tories to attempt to form a stable government.

They didn't sell their soul at all. 75% of their manifesto has been implemented. I think the problem is, because the Lib Dems passionately believe in PR and so by conjunction a more consensus based politics. They have been very disciplined thus far. They haven't complained nearly as much as the Tories who would do well to remember they didn't win the general election and are only in power because of the Lib Dems. They should stick to the coalition agreement. You can't suddenly change your mind on it. It is very hard on the Lib Dems though. As Pap pointed out, they should if the voting system was fair, have a lot more seats than they do. They could have stayed on the sidelines and sniped, but they did the brave thing and entered coalition to get things done even if they knew it could be electoral suicide. I think in the long term it'll lead to a more consolidated and loyal Lib Dem vote more aware of what they actually are and stand for. Too many people thought they were some ultra left wing party or something. Coalition means compromise, and they aren't going to get their way on everything, but they have got through a lot that they can be proud of.

I think the thread title is a little bit deceptive. I don't think you can force people into unpaid work. It's a bit silly anyways, surely giving these jobs to people damages the economy anyways... because then they are taking a job that someone else could be doing paid.

Superb tactics from Laura Trott there to win that event! Hopefully she can wrap up another gold tomorrow.

And it's been confirmed. Lib Dems will not vote through Tory boundary changes. That means Cameron will not win the next election. On Clegg himself, I was lucky enough to be able to meet him recently and he actually a very nice and reasonable person. He gets a hard time from the Tory press for things largely beyond his control.

Bye bye boundary reforms. The conservative hierarchy are not going to be happy. This could be terminal.

Robson really had a bad match tbh. Seen her play much better than that. Though I suppose we can't expect her to be able to cope with the kind of serves being fired at her.

Good job I'm not a child then

Murray was preventing him with superb deep groundstrokes.

Emotionally.

He sounded dejected in that interview.

Federer is a bad loser.

You said Federer wasn't bothered when he clearly was! Stop trying to take away from his win.