Midfield_General

Errr, yes they can. Saints can. It’s called an appeal process. They can, they should and they will. And it would result in the final having to be moved. Which is why expulsion won’t happen. Saying ‘Rules are rules’ in football is the most pathetic argument imaginable. Every team and club, at every level, bends or outright ignores rules every day trying to get an advantage.

I really wouldn't worry about it. At the end of the day, it's just a load of blokes who should know better taking football way too seriously (and I count myself in that) and getting a bit silly about a kid standing in a hedge with an iphone. It's only football and the whole thing is tomorrow's fish and chip paper. This will get sorted next week, then something else will happen and everyone will move along and forget about it. It's just the circle of life/ football/ the internet. Love and light

Can't believe people are still reacting to stuff being posted on Boro forums by anonymous internet dickheads Come on lads, seriously 🤣

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How old are you?

Or that Will Still was, somehow, even more shit than we thought previously and couldn't even win when someone was literally telling him what the opposition were going to do

Gibson's negotiation technique is aggression and relentless bullying. One well-known quote up there was from when he was threatening to sue PD Ports (the Middlesbrough port) over a land dispute and said: "I want your walls and I want the eyes out of your head; I want the fucking roof off your house. I want your kids out of private school. I want the shoes off your feet." He gives it the man of the people shtick but underneath it he's a bully and a cunt, and I hope our legal team call his bluffs, hold him accountable for how he has tried to use the media to influence this process, and take him and his pointless club to the fucking cleaners.

Personally, I blame this on Eric Black

According to....?

Tuesday then Care to comment? 🤣🤣🤣 Got to love these ITKs

Starting with forcing the play-off final to be moved until such time as the appeal is concluded. Yes, I'm sure everyone involved would love to have to handle that

Do you seriously think we would suspend our own first team manager before our two biggest games of the season, with hundreds of millions resting on the outcome, just because some kid had been silly enough to get caught doing it on public land with an iphone, whether other people were previously aware of it or not? Do people really still think football is squeaky clean?

Hopefully they'll announce the decision tomorrow and then Stockley Park will whisper in the chair's ear, make him go to the monitor, and then we all have to wait another four years while VAR* decides whether the decision stands or not (* Verified Arbitration Representatives)

Exactly - which was my original point. And the logic of that also means that we're not getting kicked out, because if they try and do that, we immediately appeal, which means the final can't be played and has to be moved. 👇

Gosh, what a lot of people suddenly have access to the evidence that hasn't yet been presented to a panel that hasn't sat yet

Quite. And how long do they wait before they play it? Until the appeal process plays out? How long does that take? What if the appeal gets escalated to the courts, gets stuck and we get to August without a resolution? Do they delay the start of the season too? They may be trying to pretend it's an option to use it as negotiation leverage, but there is not a single chance in hell that the final gets moved. Not one.

Ok, son top of all the other reasons, apparently Wembley will also now just hand over the game which is personally worth £8m to them, to another venue. Presuming this is from some claimed ITK status? Or just stirring with no substantiation whatsoever and conflicting with what the Mirror is saying about the day the panel sits? Care to elaborate, or just looking for bites? (in which case, doh, well done)

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Well if that article's correct (and I appreciate it's the Mirror) then we're not getting kicked out. That article clearly states that if they do try and kick us out then we will immediately appeal it, and triggering that process alone would mean that the final couldn't be played and they'd have to move it. There's no way the final is going to be moved, it's not logistically possible — ergo, we're not getting kicked out. I suspect that there is some frantic backchannel negotiation going on behind the scenes where we agree to take a monster fine, possibly a points deduction and to pay some compensation to Boro to shut Gibson up, and in return they confirm that we'll not be removed so that any talk of the final being moved goes away, tickets can be issued as planned on Friday and everyone can get on with preparing for it (except Boro of course). Everyone comes away from that sort of happy and the logistical issues go away. If so, we've played our hand quite well because we have the right to 14 days, and the longer we force this mess to drag on, the more unmanageable it is for the EFL, Wembley, the police etc. They'll just want it sorted so they can play the game.

Hang on - are we on an unbeaten run? That's news to me. I guess no-one saw that coming, or they would have mentioned it since.

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Can't remember where I read it now, but someone said that Corden weighing in has the vibe of that person in the office who never watches football and knows nothing about it but who suddenly develops an extremely strong opinion on one particular issue. For the record, the obese waitress-abuser's proposal was that if Saints go up, we should have to give 50% of next season's TV money to Middlesbrough. Or to put it another way, a fine equating to approximately £75,000,000.

100, it would seem They've lost their collective minds They're whipping themselves into such a frenzy over every made-up rumour and scrap of twitter bullshit, they're like those people who believed Alex Jones when he told them that pesticides made their frogs gay, except they all look like Phil Stamp (and that's just the women)

Gibson literally phoned him while he was on air It's not exactly subtle behind-the-scenes stuff