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It seems so, 1 point infraction please.

Norwich route to the premier league was exactly the same as ours, they've established themselves by spending half what we have in one season less. They've also had a managerial change in that time.

Yep, agree fully. As someone that has recieved a number of infractions for supposedly sarcastic and pointless comments and was given one only the other day, 2 points for "insulting another forum member" for joking calling MiltonRoader a skate c*nt, (like dozens of others have) and patronisingly told to grow up by Just Mike it's totally hilarious and pathetic the reaction of the mods on this. Not that i agree with infraction points on an internet forum by the way. Funny how they are happy to dish them out like confetti for sometimes and totally bottle it on others.

Exactly this. He is very good at finding players and getting them to play in a cohesive unit. It does make me laugh how some on here claim he bankrupts clubs and point to Pompey as an example of this. Convieniently ignoring the successsion of corrupt owners and the fact that he made huge profits on Sully Muntari, Defoe, Glen Johnson and Diarra. He may be a c*nt but he's a very effective manager and like any manager, if you give him money he'll spend it.

It wasn't in a pub but the first time i went to Marakesh i saw a young Morrocan lad on a scooter wearing a 2003 home shirt with Fernandes on the back.

Dont they say managers are judged by results? In that case his results at the clubs you mention, plus West Ham and Spurs are very, very good.

Would he have done it without money though? It's only fair to ask the question as a number of posters on here have criticised other managers regularly for only doing well when they have it.

It's not what I would say, I would say the if we finish midtable he's done a fantastic job. But some of our other posters would surely not acclaim it as a success as they have critisised other managers for only being successful when they have money to spend. He coldnt do it with S****horpe when he had none. This is exactly the case with Nige is it not?

Isn't a charge made reguarly against several managers that this fourm doesnt like that they only do well when they have money? By that same token Nigel has only done/will do well because he has had money. He didn't take S****horpe from L1 to midtable in the premier league did he.

Wold you rather stay up and have 5 months to live or go down and have 7?

I would say he is a terrible manager because he only got us to and promotion by spending money, he clearly needs money to succeed.

Why don't you actually read the posts and understand them. No one is using the Villa game today to have a go at the club. It's the simple fact that by our own captains admission we were overawed by being lucky enough you play at Anfield.Villa went there and attacked with purpose and scored 3 goals, we barely registered a meaningful attempt on goal. We get it, we cant play well every week. The problem some of us have is more to do with Premeir league footballers being filled with wonder at playing at the home of a midtable side and a team who had been below us going there and scoring more goals than we had meaningful shots only two weeks ago.it's a marked difference in attitude.

Why strange? I think it's a perfectly simple concept to grasp. If, like Brentford have, SFC said you can pay what you want for a ticket how much would you pay? It really isn't difficult. I thought it was a great idea and a top way to attract new fans and reward existing ones.

So rather than taking the fact that it was our first game at Anfield and turn into into an inspiration for a great performance you're happy to accept it as an excuse not to turn up?

Lol. Do you seriously think he would say he expects us to go down?!

It was the youngest Villa side to ever play in the premier league. Soccerball Saturday made that point several times.

Great idea from Brentford. For their home game against Stevenage fans can pay what they want for a ticket, anything over £1. Payments over £5 and a donation will go to sport relief. Got me thinking how much would I pay if I had the choice to. We've become used to paying £30 plus in England and we are the most expensive in Europe. What do you think is a reasonable price for football though? I would say about £18-£20 is a fair price for a lower half premier league soccerball weighing it up against other forms of entertainment and other sports. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Now I know they were playing Man City but really they should have been out of sight by half time. Newcastle just had nothing

And Villa are above us so they are doing something better, yes?

Newcastle are in serious danger if being dragged into it. They won't go down but are badly out of form and got some tough games to come.

Read what? Im not quite sure how you are attempting to spin our captain saying 'the occasion got to us' as anything over than what is obviously means.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise I had to reply to your every post. Especially when I've already responded in other posts. 'the occasion got to us' That on its own is compelling evidence is it not?

I must be missing the joke.

So you know more than our captain?

That's not what our captain said.