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and Zoltan Gera, him Scott Parker & Jamie O'hara in midfield would be awesome. With Anton Ferdinand (or did they mean Rio?) at the back and Owen up front with Lambert and Shay Given in goal we should expect to be able to win every game 10-0 next season. I'd also look at Carlton Cole with Robert Green as back up to Shay Given, they might be after a move if West Ham get relegated. David Bentley might be worth a look as well, clearly not wanted by Redknapp and not getting a game there, been farmed out to Birmingham on loan, surely he'd see us as a more attractive option.

Big difference between signing a young premier league not getting a game at their parent clubs like Jack Cork, Henry Lanzbury or Micheal Maccienne either permenantly or probably on loan and signing England international and player of the season Scott Parker who is wanted by Tottenham or Irish international goal keeper, Shay Given who was wanted by Arsenal and Man United a couple of seasons ago.

there are loads on this thread, Shay Given, jamie O'Hara, Wayne Bridge, Anton Ferdinand, Zak Knight, Michael F*cking Owen, Scott Parker, Alan Smith etc... I know you think we are the most attractive side outside the top 4 in the premier league but the rest of the country doesn't.

Can someone please give me the reasons why we think all these current premier league players will want to join us for next season? i am struggling to think of one.

Wasn't it the best bet outside the teams challenging for the champions league in the prem when we were in L1? Maybe Shay Given and Scott Parker are realistic targets then.

In that case we should get all the players out there chasing chickens pre season, it worked for Rocky Balboa.

He's not been fit or on form consistantly since he left Newcastle, plus he's a *****.

thank god for that, i hoped no one would seriously be mad enough to think England International and FWA footballer of the year, wanted by Tottenham in january would join Saints ahead of them.

I take it Scott Parker is a joke?

So basically a new team then?

Fringe Premier league players? Would they not also fit the "failed" premier league players category? I agree though, silly looking at L1 players unless they are the very best ones capable of player at a higher level.

This and while we are at it anyone who suggests Shay Given as a new signing, there have been a few on here the last couple of days, is seriously mental and should be banned.

Macienne has been on loan in the championship for the last 4 or 5 seasons up until this season, he's only played a handful of times for Wolves this season in the Premier league, i cant imagine there will be a host of premier clubs desperate to sign him, he was great in the championship for Wolves though, when they played down here a couple of season ago he was the best player on the pitch.

I am and not by sniping at everyone else.

ssshhh dont let Super mikey or the other lounge superstars hear you say that, i have been reminded on a few occasions that this is not just a football forum all manner of subjects are open to discussion on here.

why are you being a bellend and bring up all the negative threads this season? Get over yourself, it's boring. After going to the Wallsall game and seeing us huff and puff to break down the team who at the time were the second worst at home in the whole country i didn't think we'd make promotion. Did anyone really think we'd then win 13 of our last 15 games? Anyone that says they did is a liar. We needed that incredible form to stay ahead of Huddersfiled who themselves were on a great run, because of performances like Wallsall, like notts County & Brentford at home. We've achieved promotion but your constant "look at me, i was right" is getting f*cking boring.

What exactly is genuine pace? Johnno Quick pace in a centre back is very very rare, in fact i cant think of a single centre back that been known for their pace since Des Walker.

What do Davis, BUtterfield, Jaidi, Chaplow & Connolly all have in common?

for a CH how about Micheal Mancienne? Been on loan for the last 5 season, 2 of them at Wolves, looked great at Championship level but not played for them much in the premier league. He'd be a great addition to the squad.

If he is still with us, next season will be a better benchmark of this, IMO. Lets face it most home games this season it's not been a case of if we win, but by how many. It's easy to come into a team that is smashing everyone in sight and look good. We wont dominate teams like we do in this league with players who are head and shoulders above most others in this division. It'll be more of a level playing field and he'll come up against a better standard of defender. Plus he'll be playing at the same level as Theo did for us, lets not forget Theo has never had the honour of sprinting at Carlise, Wallsall and Dagenham & Redbridges defences week in week out.

At 22 years old, Walcott has played and scored in a Wembley cup final, finished every season in the top 4 of the premier league, scored a hatrick a played regularly for England, been to a world cup finals (admittedly as a bit part) played regularly and scored in the champions league. Not bad for a sprinter who cant cross. You simply cannot compare him to a 18 year old playing his first season two leagues below and say he will become better because he uses his brain and can cross, the gap between league one and the top four of one of the best leagues in the world is immense. Loads of players are hyped up at a young age, Jermaine Pennant was supposed to be the new George Best. Others look like world beaters in the championship yet cant cut it in the premier league, think of Koumas, McSheffery, Earnshaw, even our own Gregorz Rasiak. I dont understand the logic in saying that a player will become better than another player who is already an international and top 4 club standard because he looks great against the likes of the mighty Gary Borrowdale of Carlise, especially when you take into account at the moment he isn't even the best player Saints have.

oh right, must have been reading a different forum 3 months ago.

hang on a minute, i thought he was absolutely sh*t, shocking first touch, couldn't finish his dinner and the worst brazilian since Jordans bad day at the beauty salon.

There is nothing more cringeworthy than the Sky cameras pointing at some overweight middle aged fella in a replica shirt, crying because his team have just lost and means they wont win the league or cup.

I think you'll find a lot of people on here pay a great deal of attention to the championship manager game. My success and signings proves that you can be successful without spending millions and only a £5.5k per player wage cap. Barry Bannan is proving himself to be an excellent signing, i think we should look at him for certain.