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You seem to be contradicting yourself, on the one hand you are saying bronze age man was illiterate and on the other saying he already had this moral code and knew all god told them anyway. Which one is it? Also your point about it being a tiny % is because the Jews were god chosen people back then, hence why he Moses was instructed to take them to the promised land. That is why it was instructions just to them and why the Jews still believe this today.

You are really starting to bore me and we are going round in circles. You appear to take everything in there literally. Maybe ancient, illitrate bronze age man needed to be told in these terms as that was the only way they understood and to emphaises how serious adultery, stealing etc was viewed? We dont know, we weren't there. Today most people in society probable doesn't need religion because most people are relatively educated and taught to know right from wrong, but did bronze age man? We dont know, probably not if they were as backward as you seem to think. Bible teachings were passed down through thousands of generations, i dont see how you can say they dont provide a decent basis to live your life by. Without them how do you know we wouldn't be all killing each other for looking at someone funny, ****ging each others wives and disrepecting our parents, oh wait a minute, some do........

Dont be silly, avoiding the question though,come on, what would you think if you caught Mr BTF was wearing a dress, heels and thong and tights?

well???

why are you avoiding telling us us your views on cross dressing and if Mr BTF got amoungst it? Is it because you'd find it odd and this goes agains the live and let live principles you preached last week?

Yeah he should have invented carrier pigeons earlier. I dont know what you are trying to prove or why you are trying to "convert" me because i'm totally apathetic to the bible and it's teachings, apart from as i say, happening to beleive that some of the teachings provide a decent moral basis to live your life by, you seem to be getting yourself at it. I said above it'll be littered with errors due to the timeframe it was written over, the literacy of the original writers, translation etc etc and am fully aware it is a man made book. It may contradict itself as well, but not the example you provided eh!

You need to get her to weight watchers then pal.

So you are admitting you are wrong and it is not a contradiction then? Or maybe it's an example of what happens when mankind rules himself and why he felt the need to introduce the 10 commandments as a guide for living?

I cant be arsed to go through all 4 but just looking at your first one, it is utter ****e and not a contradiction whatsoever. Gen 1 v 31 was written after day 6 of creation when god looked earth and was happy with what he had created that day (obviously not a literal 24 hour day). The "contradiction" as you put it was after man had been created and years later and had started to sin and become wicked. A bit like you having a child, being delighted you have had a child, only for that child to grow up to become a smack head and a murder, i am sure you would be disatified with what you had created under that circumstance as well.

You haven't told us what you'd do if you came home and Mr BTF was dressed in your thong, hold ups andeye liner, what's it to be? No likey no lighty.....

Would it bother you if your partner was dressing up as a bird or your bird if you were?

that is because you are a student and most girls you associate are shrieking banshees trying to draw attention to themselves. Dont worry in 5 or 6 years time they will realise how vulgar they look and switch to wine, you meanwhile will still be desperately trying to grope women after one too many snakebites and masterbating over Megan Fox in FHM.

I may be wrong but it sounds like chlamydia. And yes, expect you have one of those cock umbrella stuck down your japs eye. If only she'd get her legs closed it'd saved a whole world of trouble for you.

ANd you are doing the same because you are using the same to paint it in a bad light, are you not?

As i said above i am not picking and choosing, just commenting on what limited knowledge i have. Unlike you i dont have an axe to grind with a book 5,000 years old and spent my life researching it by the sounds of it. Like anything, religion and the bible its a case of you can read into it what you like and take it as literally as you like, some will say it condones murders, rape etc, other religions will argue it doesn't or is not all meant to be taken literally. And you are relying on a book which is bound to be inaccurate simply due to the amount of time it has been translated through history, there are bound to be errors. It all happened 5,000 years ago and i am not particularly religious although i do think there is something there and think the bibles principles provide a decent moral code to live by. What i do know is for a lot of people that need it religion and the bible provides comfort, faith, contentment with their life etc, didn't Karl Marx call it the opium of the people, live and let live as everyone on here would say.

Yes i do, because i wasn't talking about people being killed if they dont keep to them! As i said above it's guidance, it was written 5,000 years ago and gave the Jews a code to live their lives by, reading the code and taking it as simply that would give people a pretty decent and moral way of living their lives, i dont see how you can argue that point.

No, if everyone applied the commandments there be no murders, no stealing and everyone would be a lot safer, it's if they didn't aply them there'd be problems, but maybe that is the deterant serial burglars & muggers need!

Oh i know it happens. But what would happen if it happened to you? Or maybe you have indirectly answered that already?

Oh god Jackanory, you've started him off again.

So you agree that if everyone applied the ten commandments then the world would be a much better place? I'm not picking and choosing, just speaking about the parts i know about from my limited knowledge of the book. I dont have the time or interest to look into it in any further detail, certainly not to look through 50 odd scriptures online to see if you are right or wrong and that there might or might not have been ocasions where God said murder was okay. It's a minefield which people have been aruging about for centuries and will continue to do so. In a book which covers 2,000 odd years, 60 odd writers, been transalated god knows how many times from and ancient language and covered most of the ancient world you'll always get contradictions and different versions of the same events.

see my opening post, she said i'd be gone, fair enough, couldn't have any complaints. SO come on, what about you? I really find it difficult to believe that any woman would come home and find her fella in her clothes and make up and shrug her shoulders and get onto the La Senza website to buy them both some sexy underwear do you?

Do unto others as you would have them do to you? The ten comandments gave the jews a code of conduct to live their life by. it might sound dated now but this was written 5,000 years ago, (or 2,000 if you listen to verbal but thats another story) i dont think there is much wrong or missing and if everyone applied them today, ie no murder, stealing, jealousy and showing respect and honour everyone the world would be a much better place. Right or wrong?

But what would your woman do (assuming you have one) if she came home and found you dressed in her clothes and make up? Would she not find it odd, or we she stick the kettle on make a cup of tea and ask you what you want for dinner? It's all very well saying "f*ck it, let people live how they want" but if that was you in that situation would you still think the same way? I bet 95% of the "live and let live" brigade wouldn't react like that if something upset their safe, timid, mainstream existances.

yeah but i really couldn't be arsed looking them all up on the internet. I've not really got any views for or against on the bible but from my limited knowledge of it, like anything there are good and bad and the some of the fundemental teachings in there are generally a pretty good basis to live your live by.

it's all for attention. If someone was serious about killing themselves they wouldn't be on top of a bridge for 10 hours whilst people talk them out of it. Whoever it is wil come down. If you are going to do it then you'd just get on with it or do it privately, overdose or something rather than making a big song and dance about it. Oh, just seen, he's come down. What a surprise. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8851088.Bridge_reopens_after_man_talked_off_ledge/