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Fair point but I guess when VW are performing they are not doing it under the gaze of 20-30,000 snarling competitors who all think they are cheats 🙂

Not so sure. Boro players will be blowing out their arses within 25 minutes on that big Wembley pitch and with all the mental pressure on them. Think Hull will come strong in the second half and take them. Hope so anyway.

Maybe.

Or they're sweeping it under the carpet because they know full well it's widespread and don't want to open an even bigger can of worms.

Yeah, I made the same point. Begs the question where did Boro get this snippet from.

He had a proper well paid job then.

I guess when there are bills to pay he has to go searching in the gutter for clicks.

Agree, it was a complete fuck up by us.

Agree and he's a mate of Jim White so why isn't he on Talk Sport facing up to what's gone on and giving his opinions?

I'm pretty sure you can sack someone on the spot for gross misconduct. Of course they'll have a right to appeal.

Might see what the result is at full time and, if Boro have lost (hopefully), stick the box on and watch the tears flow.

Yeah, there's been a bit of that but, if we're honest, he's toast and rightfully so.

Haven't seen many, if any, do that. Everyone seems very angry that we've allowed this to go on and the position it's led to. Pointing out the holes in what Boro did is fair enough in my book so not standing up for our cheats I'm actually shining a light on the Boro dirty tricks that I suspect went on. Nothing we did can be exonerated but there are two sides to this.

Horse had already bolted by the time Pannick arrived on the scene. The appeal was mere lip service.

No place for common sense and standing up for our club on this forum. You'll be shot down quicker than a Sutkka bomber over London in 1940. Just accept we are the bad boys and the worst of the worst.

And the fact that Boro knew about us spying on Oxford on the same day they nabbed our spy? Do you have a view on that to maybe fight the club's corner in all this?

Speak for yourself.

Over to those who are 100% sure Boro have played with a straight bat in all this. Let's have some comments.

Nah, Bielsa should be the bench mark here. The way he was dealt with set the precedent. Case against Eckert dismissed.

Good stuff but you'll just be accused of being a mad conspiracy theorist because we are the bad boys in this and, Boro, led by Gibbo, are squeaky clean and how dare we try to fight our corner by raising some clear anomalies in how this unfolded.

Ah, I get it. That makes me feel a lot better. If they did it, no big deal despite what it has achieved for them. Fair enough.

Not at all because, unlike Boro, the cop has nothing personal to gain. He's merely doing his job to keep drunk drivers off the street.

Nah. Don't like Spurs but West Ham for me since Fatty Corden stuck his nose into our business.

Any thoughts on why Bielsa wasn't suspended from football by the FA or EFL for brazenly admitting to spying on teams prior to every game? Not saying anything you mention is incorrect but what about covering the double standards? Or aren't we allowed to fight our corner?

Completely agree.