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Be interesting to see what happens in the next match Peretz is fit if Ramsdale comes in and plays brilliantly.

That's not a very sensible thing for him to come out and say imo. Imagine if City were to get away with the majority of the charges and/or receive a very light punishment - fingers might well be pointed Burnham's way suggesting some involvement from him. Dodgy ground.

So as Leeds City presumably came back as Leeds Utd could Man City come back as Man Utd? Ah, there's a huge fly in that particular ointment.

From my very poor recollection I think he suggested that both sides had signed NDAs and then the news that City had been found guilty was announced prematurely on, I think, The Athletic thus breaking the NDA. Again I'm not suggesting this makes any difference because clearly I wouldn't know so was just passing on something I'd heard and, to your point, he probably is one of many media hungry lawyers 🙂

Yeah 'defence' was the wrong word. The rest is just something I heard from Stefan Borson who, I assume, knows a lot more about these things than I do.

Well it was suggested as a possibility by Stefan Borson on Talk Sport and he's a very well respected lawyer. Doesn't mean he'll prove to be correct of course.

Does anyone think they stopped doing this 7 seasons ago? Their MO would not appear to have changed.

I don't get our interest in Rob Edwards. He'd come in and impose 3 centre backs with wing backs. Great news for Capn Jack but the fans will not like it one little bit.

Every match and trophy City won since the very first of the charges they face is tarnished and that includes the ones under Pep. All the financial cheating built the club up to where they are today so I don't consider it only covers the period up to 2018. All the cheating had a knock-on effect.

I imagine Simon Pearce is bricking it.

Chelsea is fairly different because their offences were committed under Abramovic. Their new owners uncovered it all when doing due diligence and owned up to everything so were treated more leniently. City have been the complete opposite in that they've maintained their innocence throughout and been uncooperative.

If guilty how on earth can they possibly be allowed to stay in the league they cheated on for years on an industrial scale? This is not a few million it is absolute fortunes that enabled them to hoover up all the best senior players plus the elite youngsters from other clubs.

If you watch the film its a very similar MO with payments hidden and a very loose association with the true facts of what went on. When they appealed their appeared to be a stitch up between them and CAS so that they had a 2-1 casting vote in the decision to uphold their appeal. All seemed very shady.

So they were still allegedly doing it even with all these charges hanging over them. The sheer arrogance beggars belief. Their owners should be made to sell up and never be allowed to buy another football club. Meanwhile Tonda will no doubt be crucified for a lad behind a tree with a phone camera.

There is a very interesting film on Youtube entitled Britains Biggest Football Scandal? Basically it mainly deals with the way City weaseled their way out of a 2 year ban which would have meant no Champions League Football. People often cite CAS as a above board organisation but they are shown in a very bad light and some would say they helped City get the ban quashed. It's a good watch as long as you can put up with the frequent same ads every few minutes.

You have to wonder whether City engineered the leak because I've heard legal experts claim the fact that it was leaked could work in their favour and be put forward by their legal team in any defence case against the charges.

Brilliant 🙂

This is a very good point.

It's well worth having a look at the highlights of Shrewsbury v Colchester which finished 2-2. Moses Sesay on loan at Colchester was superb and scored both their goals. The first he picked the ball up in his own half and ran to the penalty area before slotting home a low shot. The second came very late to earn his side a point when he smashed a shot first time into the top corner from inside the area. He also took his man on and beat him a few time and looked a very good player. I imagine he'll soon be knocking on the door to get some game time for us.

This may well prove to be total bollocks. However, if it pans out to be on the money it shows the level of corruption within the powers running football. It speaks to people in very high positions having already discussed how they'll allow City a lenient punishment for a barrage of serious offences they've already been found guilty of.

Not to take anything away from Larin but his assist consisted of missing an absolute sitter which he kicked straight at the keeper when it was easier to score, the ball came back and rebounded off Larin into the path of the scorer who tapped it in.

He plays 5 at the back so it's a no from me.

For the 9 year time period this was happening City were effectively cheating against every team they played so all their points should be deducted and awarded to their opponents.

If City are relegated to the bottom tier of the EFL surely their owners will be looking to sell the club as it will hold no attraction or benefit to them. City will have to sell all their main players and will be playing in front of small crowds even at home with little tv money or sponsorship deals. Also shouldn't we expect court cases for individuals over the massive fraud for false accounting plus it's also alleged they paid players and managers more than declared to HMRC. This is either going to blow up massively or be swept under the carpet - my bet is on the latter to protect the Premier League because City are their biggest cash cow. Interesting times ahead.

Another good reason Frank might want to come here.