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I wasn't referring to the working class, but the under class.

Because you haven't doesn't mean others shouldn't. You are simply making a point to fit your own viewpoint despite it being totally irrelevant.

Fundamentalism is a direct result of the Saudi petrodollars being used to fund religious schools across the Muslim world and those schools teaching hardline Wahhabism. The Sunni/Shia internecine killings are a different kettle of fish so let's not mix up the former with the latter but I'm with you on Iran's backing of the Shia's in Iraq.

I'd agree with that. I'd also add that the white underclass in the Midland & Northern cities certainly don't help the situation.

All paid for by Saudi petrodollars.

Yes, they're British, just Muslim. In the same way my some guys are British but Sikh or British & Catholic. They were born here, this is their home. Most absolutely hate having to go "home" for duty visits etc. It is very noticeable that their attitude towards the more "hardline" women is pure contempt. They also drip like a wet weekend about the Poles coming over & taking all the jobs!

Many women have access to education for the 1st time and they find it liberating. They also want better for their own daughters so many now refuse to allow their daughters to be taken "home" for arranged marriages to some "country peasant" they've never met. They are still Muslim & proudly so, but they are British and now have very little in common their "home" country. Having taught many 100s of them over the last 6 years in the Black Country it is the one message that I've encountered over and over again. I shall miss them, especially the food the often supply, when I go back to Stoke in September.

I understand the perception but the reality is different. I work in Smethwick at the moment, one of the most multicultural parts of the UK. I regularly find myself in mosques, Hindu temples & Sikh temples and 99.9% percent of people are simply decent folk doing their best for their families. Yes there are radical idiots, but they are equally split between the white & Asian communities. There are no "no go areas" bar some white estates, no one enforces sharia and everyone attempts to rub along. I'm no lover of mass immigration and sometimes I feel an alien in my own country but if anyone thinks we are being Islamified they are frankly, thick as fu.ck. If anything the women of Islam, born in the UK, are being liberated.

What utter, utter boll.oxs.

Boll.oxs does it. Plenty of us forces types know damn well it's UK foreign policy that's the root cause. Us forces types tend to be clued up as it's us that end up getting shot at.

Now that is bang on the money.

I accept that they pronounce on that now but the EDL is a direct result of militant Islam, born out of the anti-army protests in Luton. They didn't exist before that and that anti-army protests were a direct result of our governments foreign policy.

He is rather pathetic.

I agree with you on this. The argument isn't about internecine fighting or sect against sect it's about the radicalisation of Muslims in the UK and that has been driven by US/UK foreign policy.

Are you actually an adult as your answers are like something I'd expect from my 8yo?

I totally & utterly agree. I'd add stop backing Israel as well and make sure the people of Palestine are given a proper homeland on the West Bank.

It is a simple question though with a simple yes or no answer.

Totally & utterly agree. Cut out the cancer.

Perhaps because mugs like UAF shout "fascist" at the EDL whilst totally and utterly missing the point that the Jihadist are also fascists but they barely register an audible whisper about them. Nor do they raise their voices about our governments foreign policy that has led to the rise of the jihadists and thus to the EDL.

Tantrum? Dear me, you are a bit precious. I don't support them I think they are a bunch of mugs but I understand why so many do support them and that's because I'm opened minded, something you are clearly incapable of. You are as brainwashed as the Islamic jihadists and the EDL meat heads. All of you are part of the problem and all are too thick to see it.

Now he should be behind bars.

Plenty of ex-forces types who have seen combat support the EDL and it's the war in Afghanistan, as well as Iraq, that has led where we are now. You seem far more outraged about the EDL than you do the death of the soldier. That says an awful lot about you.

I've always thought the badge poor and I still do. That said, the idea of marketing people designing the badge makes me shudder.

Ironic that after spouting of about "our women" they get shot by a British lass.

Why would they treat a bloke obviously dead?