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It's an island we've always liked. We've always gone by ship though. :cool:

He's a tory. MP for somewhere in Bucks. Married to some Labour lass.

Phew, I'm going to Dunkirk!

It's airmiles that are flying my wife and I to Antigua for her 40th with the added bonus of no kids in tow!

You record for being right is good as Browns valuation of gold.

I suggest you read up on how our political system works.

Strange that as we decided to avoid flying this 1/2 term as well so off to Europe via Dover we go.

The BBC Special that was on at 20.30

According to the meeting held with the PCP he's said a minority government is out and that they will have to offer a referendum on PR but that the tories will free to campaign against it. They are all selling their souls!

She was ousted over a generation ago and the world has moved on since then. I happen to believe every vote should count then and I still do now. It's not right that a tory in Labour heatlands and a Labour supporter in tory heartlands vote doesn't count due to geography. I would also suggest that your whinging and whining on this thread sums you and your politics up nicely.

Not judging by the mithering on this board. I happen to believe that every vote should count. I've always believed that and I always will. Idealistic I know.

Talk about miss the point. Like myself he's pointing out that your decision to vote for UKIP was to jolt the tories to the right and now your mithering that it's the end of centre based politics. UKIP, BNP AN Other poll votes and so should have a place in Parliament no matter how odious we may find their politics. I call it democracy.

You do understand how it works don't you?

I agree that you'd have hardline at the extremes but the major parties would, IMHO, shift to the centre where the majority of the UK electorate are situated.

I would see it as bringing politics to the centre, which will disappoint you of course as you've been saying how you want the tories to lurch to the right.

Stanley said so and Stanley has been right all along with his election predictions.

So a tory/lib pact could work but a left of centre one couldn't? A tory minority government would lose the Queens Speech vote and we'd be back at the ballot box. It's all a right royal mess.

Yes, quite good. I'll assume that your predictions of a collapse of the core Labour vote and those votes going blue was down to wishful thinking.

Yes, it's 329 with one result to come.

Not off the top of my head but IIRC it's just over but I concede I may be wrong. Still, you keep believing that it's just Lib/Lab if it makes you feel better. How did the Labour core vote do Stanley? How big did you say the tory majority would be with them all going over to the tories?

Forgotten about that.

Thanks. Saves me totting them up.

Going by the interviews on the BBC earlier. The SNP leader in the commons basically spelt it out how they, PC, SNLP, Greens and certain independants would be comfortable working in a left of centre coalition of all the parties to ensure economic stability.

Don't think he'd beat either of the two I mention but no doubt his hat will be in the ring.

A coalition of all the left of centre parties Stanley, not just Lab-Lib. All of them want to keep the tories out. Didn't actually believe that SNP/PC would work with Labour though.