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Exactly! Someone gets it. Treaties get voted down so they have another vote till it gets accepted. Constitutions are thrown out so they call it an amendment and pass it through anyway. It's not democratic at all, it stinks and is why we are better off out.
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And so by implication, the minority of British people who think this is a bad idea (you know the ones, the people who supported the euro) are actually the intelligent sensible people?
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Of course it is now but in fifty year time? Sovereign countries able to make their own rules and not effectively being governed by a larger country with more power is just one reason against closer integration but it is an important one.
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Why should the French and Germans dictate to everyone what they should do? Europe becomes less and less democratic as we move forward. That is why the prospect of Germany as an unappointed head of Europe is a scary one for the longer term.
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Socialism can grow in unexpected places. Germany will effectively rule Europe after this and there are no safeguards or the future. I am proud that we stood form and so are the majority of the British public.
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Germany are attempting to do through economic means what they failed to by force in the last generation. Only Britain oppose them. Those who fail to recognise this are the imbecile. No doubt they are the same people who supports the euro and other euro projects.
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I would like to meet his parents. I wonder what they must be like to raise such a son. I bet they hate Britain.
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Exactly. This has been the plan from the start. I refuse to let what my ancestors fought for be in vain. We stood alone during two world wars and we knew what was right then and we know what is right now.
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I note with interest saintandy that the majority of commentators in the uk on this issue (if you read the bbc) believe it was the right thing to do with mostly labour supporters disagreeing. Also, the person you voted for agreed with this way forward. Today is a great day where we finally stood up to Germany and France and opposed their plan they were trying to force on us. Im feeling pretty patriotic and remembering my grandad and how proud he would be that we didn't cave and stood alone for what was right. This is what makes Britain great. I say pull out of the eu but stay in the common market and negotiate on an individual basis. Strengthen our ties with historical trading partners and be free to decide our own laws and implement the policies that the british public wants rather than those forced upon us by the oppressive Brussels regime.
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There were two choices that Cameron had to make last night. He chose the right one an therefore did the right thing.
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You do like playing devils advocate don't you trousers? I know you don't believe that
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I just don't see the need to bash Cameron when he has done the right thing. Slate politicians when they do bad and praise when they do good is my motto.
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But if he achieves what is best for us and the conservatives then what does it matter?
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Ha! Right in sarkozy's French face while rule Britannia plays quietly in the background.
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I best SaintAndy is upset at this news and believes it to be the end of the world...
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It's also the right choice. As the man said above, the Euro fails and the answer is to become even closer to Europe? That makes little sense.
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There is a great email on the BBC site that sums it up perfectly: It amazes me that we are held as the "bad apple" of Europe. This crisis came about because the single currency was a flawed idea from the outset, (without centralised fiscal policy how can you have a single currency) and that is the reason UK didn't join. Now once the plot unfolds and these arguments are proven we are asked to contribute to a rescue of the EU and, by doing so cutting our own throats.
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Yep. Been saying that for ages but the pro Euro lot won't accept it!
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Well done Cameron! Best move he has made since he came to power. I am ecstatic about this. We showed we would not be bullied into letting the French and Germans take charge of our country because of their failed Euro experiment. I am proud to be British today.
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anyone know where I can get a cd player fixed
hypochondriac replied to hypochondriac's topic in The Lounge
It's an upscaling dvd player that plays CDs. -
anyone know where I can get a cd player fixed
hypochondriac replied to hypochondriac's topic in The Lounge
Is that for my model? -
You are wrong dune. He sent a PM to a small number saying he was leaving and giving his reasons. He never threw a public hissy fit.
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There was bananaman at a game a few years back.
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anyone know where I can get a cd player fixed
hypochondriac replied to hypochondriac's topic in The Lounge
It slides open to the left no popping involved
