All good points Bobby but I don't wish to clog up the board. Have to say though it's a pleasure to be able to debate things in a sensible manner. Apologies if I came across in any way confrontational though. With regards my misguided comment, it was mainly because I felt you were writing it off before it had even begun. I'm under no illusions and I realise that it could descend into angry nonsense but I have faith that there will be a lot of like-minded saints fans who just want to send a message to the outside world (and hopefully to those in charge.) After all what's the alternative? Get drunk and depressed? Punch other fans in the stands? There's a chance that this could actually be really constructive and I'm going to go along with an open mind. I hope I'm not let down!