hypochondriac

I said at the end of last season that I predicted relegation next season for the first time. Now we've lost ings I think that's even more likely. Hopefully I'm wrong.

And as I said, there's some evidence to suggest that it's made things worse not better. There's major disagreement about the seriousness and extent of this issue and continually getting it discussed has harmed race relations and isn't preferable to alternatives.

So are we hoping for another glorious playoff failure this year?

First time this summer where I've genuinely thought we may be going down.

Regardless of the context or anything else I simply cannot believe we are going into our least game before the season starts with Long as a starter up front.

I don't need a lecture about how murder and rape are wrong either. Would you be out murdering and raping people if you weren't given a lecture about how they were wrong beforehand? These are things people learn when they are in primary school or just know instinctively is wrong. The sorts of people who commit these crimes are the type of people that aren't going to give a toss about a so called lecture about it being right or wrong and it's just going to breed resentment in everyone else who has never engaged in any of these things anyway.

Because in reality for many it's not about "solving racism" it's about continuing a culture war and trying to upset as many people who disagree with them as possible because they view them as thick racist idiots.

I think a valid point worth remembering as well is that for some who dislike the gesture politics it breeds resentment that their views are ignored or misrepresented. I reckon that's a net negative for race relations even if some people think it's a positive thing to have the issue continually raised.

It might make things worse. There's a bit of evidence to suggest that's the case.

But objecting to the gesture of taking the knee is not the same as disbelieving that racism is a problem. You're incorrectly conflating two separate issues.

If that's all you were saying then why did you start going on about posters disbelieving black people who thought that racism was a problem?

The type of person who if loads of black people moved into his street would be upset and probably move out.

My half Asian mate sent me that picture today and made a ricky Gervais ho Lee fook reference. He thought it was funny.

What makes me chuckle when soggy tries to lecture everyone about racism is thinking about one of my mates from the Cameroon who I know would disagree strongly with everything he's said because he bloody loves this country. Imagining him in conversation with him and seeing his head explode makes me smile.

In the real world literally no one talks about this. My friendship group has all sorts of ethnicities and races in it and they're embarrassed by most of the black lives matter stuff the consensus is that it's divisive and a net negative for the country. We barely discuss it though because 99% of our discussions are about football, beer, holidays, families and taking the piss out of each other like most group of mates. All those people fixated on racial relations and looking for problems all the time are the problem. If I went and asked them about racism then I expect they would say something like with so much going on in life with children, jobs and relationships etc who on Earth has the time to get hung on something as insignificant as skin colour?

The point is that the subjective experiences of a black person or even a group of black people does not mean that that experience is now representative of all BAME people in the UK. It's incredibly unfortunate that supersonic and his family has had some lowlifes be racist towards them but I know a couple of Black people who I have had this conversation with who have had the opposite experience. Supersonic's horrible experiences aren't proof of systemic racism in the same way that my friend's positive experiences are not total proof that it doesn't exist. Using your own subjective experiences and then simply asserting something and citing flawed Guardian articles as sources doesn't make something true.

The best bit is when he responds to a post which is a reply to one of my posts and then talks about me without addressing me directly because he's pretending to have me on ignore. I didn't bother reading all of his post because I can imagine it drones on about the far right people on here and presenting his racially divisive view of the world as being the majority view rather than a very small minority.

Has anyone claimed that racism isn't a problem?

That's fine then if its just about belief that racism happens. When it's something like every institution in the country being systemically racist then I'm not just going to simply listen and believe someone that asserts what I know to be a falsehood because it has a fundamental impact on the society I live in (and particularly when you've got plenty of BAME people that disagree.)

What about the BAME people who disagree?

It's not about a bollocking necessarily. There's plenty of influential players on the pitch who wouldn't stand for a 9-0 performance, let alone two.

Yep. If there was a mad billionaire newly in charge of a smaller club (hypothetically if Newcastle had been taken over) then that's the sort of signing I'd expect them to make. Otherwise he's not good enough for a big team and too expensive for someone like Everton.

I agree. We've had this sort of thing before where we're linked to dross and then get someone no one else has mentioned. My money is on a decent youngster from a bigger club.

I don't see why someone would buy jwp. He would cost I expect close to 50 million and for that amount you'd want virtually the complete package. Jwp is a phenomenal free kick taker and incredibly fit but he isn't that influential of the pitch. Worth remembering that he was captain during some absolutely hideous performances. You wouldn't imagine someone like Roy Keane standing for something like that.

I think vestergaard will go this summer. My prediction is vestergaard out, one maybe two strikers in and a replacement CB.