hypochondriac

And she often posts like she plays football- awkwardly and with the suspicion that she's had a bit too much to drink.

That's a first. Verbal made me laugh.

Yes I think that's something we can all agree on.

Whilst I'm not calling for shamimas death, the upside to an IS victim sorting her out would mean that she would no longer be a problem. Just because I gave one example of what might happen to her- along with many other subsequent examples- does not mean that is what I am calling for. Hopefully that clarification helps you to understand it better.

Well it could be with us in the championship!

Firstly I was talking to unbelievable Jeff not you, who up until this point hasn't tried to misrepresent me unlike yourself. I know what I meant thanks because I wrote it and you can pretend you know what my inference was all you like. I have been very clear that I hope she never gets back into this country, that I'm glad the government are doing what they can to legally make it as difficult as possible and if she does not return then that is a positive thing. I've said the same thing from the beginning and now for some reason you're describing it as backpeddling. If this woman got killed out in Syria then of course I'm not going to be upset about it. There are actually IS victims like the coptic Christians and young girls who were sold as sex slaves and slaughtered that deserve sympathy. Now go ahead and ignore what I've actually said and instead say what you think I've inferred, that's an incredibly healthy way to have a dialogue with someone whose opinion you disagree with...

"others" being verbal and unbelievable Jeff! But go ahead, do the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and seeing what you want to see if it makes you feel better. Poor old shamima getting all that nasty "abuse" from British citizens. It's just plain old racism that they say uncharitable things about an IS member. You people are crazy.

OK I didn't realise when you asked me to list 3 possibilities that you were then going to go through each fantasy scenario and discuss their relative merits and likelihoods. Might I suggest that is an entirely pointless exercise? A Syrian Isis victim dishing out their own justice is also another possibility of course that could happen and whilst I'm not calling for that to happen, as I already said I won't be shedding any tears if it did. I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to get at here?

*waits for egg to reply with "you are hoping that a member of IS would contract an illness and die! You monster!

1) she gets a disease and passes away before she is allowed back. 2) Syria recovers to a point where they have a proper government and express an interest in trying her themselves for crimes against their people. 3) Another country takes pity on poor Shamima and offers her asylum. Obviously she could be killed or detained in a number of other ways but you only asked for three. Apologies if I wasn't clearer maybe I should have said someone or some thing.

By the way I love the phrase "reasoned inference" which is basically just a way of saying that you can just decide for yourself what someone is saying rather than what they actually said. Unfortunately it's a common reason for the spread of fake news and is something you should avoid doing. I'd prefer if we just stick to what is actually written by people rather than whatever biased and uncharitable reading you can come up with.

Hold on what free ride has jihadi Jack been given? He was laughed at because he gave some stupid answers to questions but the only reason shamima has been debated so much is because she's a female, because she was 15 and because she may have the legal right to have citizenship elsewhere and also because many were struck by how cold and unapologetic she was in her interview. There isn't even a debate about jihadi Jack being allowed back in and if shamima was male and wasn't 15 at the time she left she wouldn't have sparked so much conversation either. I don't see a load of bleeding hearts ringing radio shows and writing opi ion pieces crying about jihadi Jack and calling for his immediate return. I'd applaud the government for using any legal methods they can to make re-entering the country as difficult as possible for members of IS- no matter what their identity is- and I'm confident that's the majority stance of the public in this country Her skin colour has nothing to do with it and you make yourself look silly for suggesting it. I'm happy for Britain to use every legal power they have to prevent her return and ultimately if that proves impossible, then we will have no choice but to prosecute her to the full extent of the law in this country but I agree an international criminal court would be a good place to handle the case.

Quite right. The likes of "egg" veering dangerously close to the sort of views expressed in this tweet:

Squirming? Give me a break. You're the one making yourself look foolish by inventing things I've said and doing the classic thing of reading what you want to be there because it fits the caricature in your head. I said that hopefully the problem would be sorted out before she managed to worm her way back into the country and I didn't specify in what way it would be sorted because there are all sorts of ways. I then gave one example of how it could be sorted and I said it wouldn't bother me if that occurred. She could be detained indefinitely in another country for all I care which would also sort the problem. For some bizarre reason you're now trying to distort what I actually said. But sure you keep prattling on about honest interpretations. I'm happy for the UK government to do nothing to help her, I hope her life is as difficult as possible and that circumstances mean that she never makes it back to this country because I don't want her here. Let's remember this is the life she chose. I'd rather the media concentrated on victims of this barbaric regime than those who were part of it. She deserves no media attention and to be ignored.

And bednarek.

A) she's not a kid she's an adult who has been part of an extremist death cult for four years and expresses no remorse. She was fully aware of what she was doing at the time and continues to be. B) I didn't say I "wanted" her killed but if someone does finish her off I won't be shedding any tears. I'd be happy for her to face trial for her actions in Syria at some point if that was possible and that could conceivably mean the death penalty. If that happens I'll probably just pause and think of the people who were maimed or killed in the Manchester bombing rather than wasting any time on this individual who betrayed her country. This wouldn't even be a conversation if she was a male jihadi. Let's remember "pal" you're the one on the side of an isis member here not me. Disgraceful.

There's a myriad of ways. I didn't have a specific one in mind. Either way, let's hope the child is rescued from her as quickly as possible so the chances of a new jihadi is reduced. In fact, if she manages to force her way back into Britain I'd make it a condition of entry that her child would be adopted elsewhere.

I made no mention of any kid you fruit loop.

Eh? You've just made that up!

I think they can stand alone as long as they are realistic about the relative interest, pay their players what they can afford rather than relying on external funding sources and look to grow as much as they can. There's obviously interest in female sport despite it often being "inferior" with regards to athletic feats (although not necessarily as a sporting spectacle or entertainment.) Athletics and sports like tennis seem to get it right. No reason that football can't be a bigger success for women as long as they don't foster resentment by doing silly things like comparing it to the mens game. Let's also hope that uk women's football don't make completely retarded comparisons like their counterparts from the US. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154101240714030&id=6096369029&_rdr

It could mean a number of things. Maybe a Syrian Isis victim will fancy dishing up their own justice. And who would blame them?

Hopefully it will take an incredibly long time and someone will sort the problem for us in the meantime.

It seems that the government believes that legally she is entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship and if that is the case then under their law they would be obliged to give it to her.

Well that's debatable about how important some of those elements are, particularly when you consider the concept of abrogation. Admittedly I'm not a scholar or an expert but from the evidence we have, something like apostasy appears to be a pretty fundamental part of Islam (or at least it is for most Islamic nations.)

I'd say the persecution of Christians and the killing of gays are pretty big things if you are gay, female or Christian.