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Yes but why do you think Diane of all people gets abuse at a higher rate than other black MPs? What is different about Diane that increases the abuse she receives?

We have different interpretations of playing it down but we have been through this argument before, we simply have different views on the subject. The important thing here is that finally you have accepted that you were wrong to accuse me of saying there was no racism in football. I didn't say it and to accuse me of it is dishonest. I'd appreciate an apology for that but I expect that's too much to hope for. Here's an interesting graph I stumbled on today. Rather counters the narrative of Britain being such an intolerant hellhole.

Yes he does I know people who met him. They thought he was an Asian fan...

Yes he's complete ****.

Egg has been scrambled.

Or any other team in the division really.

No evidence people are calling for "lots" of spending (which is a subjective value anyway), simply stating a fact that we have the lowest net spend over the last five years and the only team to make a profit from transfers. Given the glaring weaknesses in the squad, its not unreasonable for supporters to expect reasonable purchases to plug the gaps. Trotting out a club losing hundreds of millions as if that's what the supporters are asking for is ridiculous.

I don't think a single person has argued that.

Oh I'm sorry I forgot we have a mini Einstein on the forum. His link to Everton having a big debt has zero relevance to saints being the only team to make a profit in the transfer window over the last five years.

What's your point?

There's a fair number of black MPs now. I wonder what it is that means Diane Abbott receives more than them? (if that is indeed the case.) Could it be her sanctimonious and obnoxious attitude? Could it be her race baiting and racist comments about"white people?" Makes you think. I reckon if Diane were white and went on about her race as much as black Diane does, displays similar attitudes and was as obnoxious then she would get quite a lot of hate thrown her way.

Gender studies?

If you "didn't make it up" then you will be able to find a post of mine that stated there was "no racism in football." That's what you are claiming. You won't be able to find that because I didn't say that. I've explained in detail why I vehemently dispute your charges of "playing it down" so no need to go through all that again. You made a claim that I said there was no racism in football. I didn't say that. If you were remotely honest about that you would apologise. I'm not just going to accept a claim of racial abuse based on no evidence. I can be sympathetic if someone claims they have been racially abused but I certainly won't just believe an assertion if no evidence is provided. Harry and Meghan may honestly believe that there has been a racial dimension to the coverage but I have seen no such thing myself. We are generally a friendly and tolerant country. If you look at various metrics we are one of the most tolerant and open societies on the planet, hence why so many want to come and live here. Human nature being what it is we are always going to have some elements of racism, homophobia, sexism etc but on the whole the British public are tolerant, friendly and accepting. Violence, stabbings and murders happen in every society on the planet and statistically its at a much lower rate here than the majority of nations around the world. Laurence Fox was told he was not allowed an opinion on racism because of the colour of his skin- an incredibly racist thing to say. Lots of people agree with his stance, including many black people like the Internet personality zuby for example. Does he have more a clue about racism because of his skin colour? Is he allowed to hold the opinions he does? I'm worried that you're so easily influenced by social media posts, I realised long ago that twitter isn't real life (you should have learnt that after the Labour election loss.) Most people in the real world have no time for identity politics garbage and soon it will be assigned to the bin of history where it belongs. Outside of twitter and Facebook your regressive left opinions simply aren't popular.

Unless you can read thoughts or have spoken to the people who have written the articles who told you their racist views, I fail to see how anyone could say that the motivation for the articles were racism. What we can say is she has been treated no worse in the press than some other royals have and that clearly had nothing to do with skin colour. There's simply no evidence that they were faced with racism initially, the day of their wedding it was wall to wall positive coverage and then things got more critical when they started getting political and lecturing. It was their actions that shifted the coverage, not her race. The onus is on the individuals making the claims of racism to prove racist intent and they clearly haven't done that. I could make wild claims like the reason you make up quotes about what I've said regarding racism in football is because you're racist against me. Of course I have no idea about your intent, but if I'm making that claim it would be for me to prove that rather than just asserting it as fact. Let's go round this circle again. Please find where I said racism "never existed in football." When you can't find anywhere I have said that then please apologise for making it up - you won't though because you're happy to spread lies.

Absolutely. We didn't even do an adequate job getting players in last summer, before you even get to this window. I though last year was going to be a big rebuild and we got hardly anyone in.

So then we have articles talking about how we will be signing multiple players in January, then Ralph saying the backup players aren't good enough and a matter of days later doing a complete 180. It looks like we will be signing no one yet again, failing to improve the team over yet another transfer window and making the rebuild job in the summer even more difficult (where no doubt we will do a half a*sed job assuming we stay up, going into yet another season with glaring weaknesses and pirating we don't get a long term injury.) I enjoy watching saints but it's very disheartening to have pretty much the least ambition in the league and its going to result in relegation sooner rather than later.

So if we get no one in Jan and Bertrand and soares leave as expected this summer, we will need: Lb x2 RB x2 Cb Cm As a minimum so that's six signings in the summer. That's a hell of a job.

The small consolation with Liverpool running away with it is that we won't get an aguero moment that will be replayed all decade.

Also why would only part of you want brexit to be a success? Surely it is in everyone's interest for brexit to be successful unless your sad hatred for Boris is stronger than your desire to see the country be successful. Its like the saddos in America who would rather see the country burn than Trump be even mildly successful.

They had the mad intersectional feminist professor banging on about white male privilege and I'm guessing she was almost certainly a labour supporter so it's not like the looney left were barred from questions.

Personally I think if we had not gone 2 up and then lost, most would have not got too upset with a narrow loss to wolves who are a good team. It's the capitulation and the goals conceeded in quick succession that are disappointing. Still we shouldn't be too upset with the players considering the great form and effort they have put in. We were due an off game.

Absolutely no one has pretended that only one person holds a racist point of view, no one has said that. The point is that meghan was not really treated in any worse a fashion than other royals. The press can be dicks but its bizarre to suggest its anything to do with being mixed race. She would have received the same sh*tty treatment had she been exactly the same but happened to have a white mother.

They made a big deal out of it in a positive way- talking about modernisation of the monarchy and the racial elements she incorporated into the wedding. I saw very little negative press up until the point they started getting political and preachy, hostile to the media and leaving themselves open to accusations of hypocrisy, none of which has anything to do with her race. Yes some headlines have been sensationalist and silly but nothing worse than any other royals have suffered over the years.

It was private until the press shared it. I can totally see why it would be of interest but it doesn't prove any racial element to the reporting of meghan, it's not like the papers were supporting her comments.

I've really lost what the point of this conversation is. I thought we were discussing if there has been a racial element to coverage of meghan. Private racist comments by the partner of someone in ukip subsequently reported by the press isn't an example of that.