hypochondriac

Why do people keep saying "it's fine" like I haven't already agreed that's its fine? Go ahead and take on Under Armor with your highly courageous decision not to buy a saints shirt- you're perfectly entitled to- just don't throw your toys out of the pram if you don't get the sort of response you were hoping for.

Yes we mustn't lose sight of what's important in all of this.

It's going to be a mess either way. Just imagine they do manage to get another referendum and remain wins. There's going to be millions of massively p+ssed off people that aren't going to just disappear. It's going to be an ugly time to live in this country for the foreseeable future no matter what happens.

I'm going to donate to the latest Tommy Robinson campaign on behalf of "jonnyboy"

Well if your point is that people are free to protest then we agree. Hopefully you also agree that people are free to laugh at such an amusingly ineffectual protest, question its right to be referred to as a protest and be suspicious of the motivation behind such a protest since it doesn't actually prevent a single animal being killed. And if you really can't see the difference between a very brave gesture of defiance in the middle of civil rights era America and Mr Jones from Swaythling not buying Jones Junior an xxxl saints shirt for the season then there's no hope for you.

Cool a civil disagreement on here for once. Cheers.

They aren't stupid they have to know it won't get through parliament.

Well I don't think that's particularly fair. If it was so easy to see such a giant increase in money then all the other leagues would have done it. Under his leadership they've increased the revenues massively and from the clubs point of view I could see why he should take at least some of the credit for that. Its not that I like there being so much money in the game or that I'm glad it's happened but I can see why most of the clubs would view him as worthy of some of the credit for it. The reason that amount is a relative drop in the ocean for them has a fair bit to do with him.

It's called a difference of opinion, hardly makes me clueless because I trust him less than you do. He's the one who supposedly believed in brexit yet is happy to stick with this terrible deal. That certainly doesn't make him principled. Look at someone like Ken Clark. I disagree with him but he's been entirely consistent from the start about what he believes and you can't help but respect that.

Well you could argue that the massive increase in tv money is what they have got from his leadership. I don't like it but it's true.

So presumably you believe that Hove is sincere then?

A real slimeball. At least with some of the others they are giving their real opinion even if you disagree. Gove will say whatever will get him the most power.

So now the way that we judge if someone has been treated harshly with regards to guilt and innocence is if they are initially found guilty and then have appeals turned down? How is that a thing?

Michael gove won't. He's one of the worst.

Neither side will accept it. May has been terrible and as I said months ago I didn't think we would leave as it won't get through parliament.

People have every right to "protest" although it's very questionable that refusing to buy a saints shirt over this actually amounts to any sort of protest. And please don't try and equate this with Rosa Parks, I know you aren't that silly. The massive disadvantage of social media is it has led to a culture where people would rather shout about how virtuous and how concerned they are about everything whilst actually doing as little as possible to make positive change. You're a prime example- happy to shout about the horrors of big game hunting and loudly chastising others who don't share your same level of faux outrage- but actually doing nothing of any practical use.

It's not really that surprising is it. If you look at it like a business he's made an absolute shed load of cash for the teams. I wish it wasn't run like that but it is.

So your protest amounts to not buying a Southampton fc shirt? What tangible difference is that going to make to the proliferation of big game hunting? There's countless other things that you could do about the issue that would make a bigger difference if you actually cared. As I said it's just another meaningless gesture to add to the long list that people like to do- and making sure that others know they have done it of course- since the advent of social media that makes them feel good about themselves. In the real world it achieves nothing.

Stopping under armor from sponsoring this type of thing isn't going to stop this type of thing from happening. Like a lot of silly initiatives, it's more about some people trying to make themselves feel good. In reality any supposed boycott by saints fans is going to make precisely zero difference to anything.

I'm going to buy two shirts and tell them that one is on behalf of forum user "Southamptonfc"

That's true but I think if we lose to Fulham then they've got to be at least thinking about it.

We are away so have a better chance of a win than if we were at home.

This basically.

But you could go to Fulham in the neutral end so you could still attend the game if you wanted to.

We obviously aren't going to buy another striker in January. We badly need something else in midfield but we would probably have to get rid of a couple of the others first. Maybe Davis and jwp? Unlikely but one can dream.