hypochondriac

Hate how often this lie is peddled.

No evidence at all that the removal of osvaldo with no replacement was cost cutting. With regards to the others they were completely unneeded so it was sensible to get rid.

The team are at fault too but so is the manager which was my point.

Another area? What are the other areas?

That isn't what I was suggesting at all. I was saying that if he did have any sort of disagreement or beef with the manager, he isn't going to be stupid enough to broadcast it on twitter. Luke would not be idiotic enough to say something like the manager's attitude, lack of interest and team selection contributed to our poor performance even if a part of him did feel that way.

If you were referring to me I never called it irrelevant. It's a good spectacle and of course it is relevant but as you said, the summer Olympics is the main event.

Lol@u of course luke is going to go on Twitter and slag off the manager.

Err he wasn't taking the pee out of luke shaw.

There are some countries like that of course (although they have something like one athlete in one event in most cases) but most cannot afford to put time and effort into something where they will come last and where it is impossible to replicate the conditions for at home. It's one of the reason the boring bit of the opening ceremony in London took hours and the Russian equivalent significantly less. It is a good laugh, I enjoy watching it and cheer on the British athletes but for me it has nothing like the scale of emotions, drama and sense of occasion on the world stage that the summer olympics does. Put it this way, I've never got the same feeling watching the winter games as I have watching the Olympic 100m final, not even close. It is also my opinion that whilst there are clearly very talented people on show, only a very small percentage of the world's population have tried many of these sports so it doesn't compare to many Olympic disciplines where Usain Bolt, Mo Farah or Michael Phelps can quite rightly claim to be the fastest in the world. For me, being the best from a very limited population on a bobsleigh or on a snowboard (despite this being an impressive achievement and many of these athletes still being phenomenally talented) just doesn't compare. Some of the sports as a spectacle are very good though I must admit. I know you are sensitive about this because you live in a country where it is very important. Canada is a powerhouse in the winter Olympics so of course they are going to be more invested and it probably feels huge over there. Over here though it's just not viewed as that big a deal IMO despite being interesting and a welcome distraction from work etc. Edit: Just checked, it was 94 countries compared to 196 in London.

Why do you think that is? For me, the actual olympics are the genuine ones, have many more countries taking part, do not exclude countries simply because they don't have snow in them, have disciplines like the 100m which are purely a test of athletic ability and don't have as many dull as dishwater sports such as skating and going down a course on a tray. Obviously there is the chance of many more British athletes doing well in the summer so it's more exciting from that point of view too.

It was better when crab lungs was monty's turban and you could post tubgirl indiscriminately and not get banned.

Exactly! I just do not see why these comments are warranted when directed at Katherina. What has she done?

It's a good laugh and an interesting watch but nowhere near the scale of the proper Olympics.

Still struggling to see how the terrible attitude of the manager and the disgusting performance and poor team selection of yesterday has anything to do with the Liebherrs or mean that we are now being run as a business and they care less about the fans than when Cortese was in charge.

At least it shows they CARE about the contribution of the fans unlike before. How does Cortese leaving mean that the club now cares LESS about the fans than before? Where is the evidence? We didn't give a cr*p about the cup before Cortese and that appears to be continuing so I see little difference so far.

I'm not sure what prompted this FF? I'm as annoyed as anyone at the team and attitude yesterday but I fail to see how that is extrapolated to mean what you have said? If anything, club legends being allowed back in, ticket promotions being more frequent and more generous hospitality offers suggests the opposite. Let's just see what happens in the summer before panicking. The early things I have seen and heard from Katherina are all positive.

So very annoyed by this. Just awful.

I haven't seen us play worse this year. Abysmal and our most important game.

Very disappointed.

For me over the two games they were the worst team we have played this year by a distance.

Typical of todays blame culture. Every once in a while things like this happen and the public in general are then out for blood.

And people thought this thread should be closed. Outstanding!

Not sure why anyone is to blame here. No one could have predicted the scale and length of this period of weather.

Do you have any idea how the justice system works?