Evo

Reginald D. Hunter.

Oooooh it's on!

I vaguely remember having a semi-drunk discussion with a law person chap a couple of years ago and he was trying to convince me that if you sign a contract with an illegal clause in it, you become complicit to the wrongdoing - in other words if you sign a contract that has a term that later turns out to be illegal then you are as liable as the guy that laid out the contract in the first place. Does that ring any bells with anyone on here?

If they can't actually figure that out for themselves, I think their tenure will be rather brief :cool:

Tut tut, THORPIE OUT!

Is it just me or did Steve Grant's quote sound like he's been reading/posting on this forum? The examples were the same as have been suggested out on here and all of the reasoning was the same as what I've read over the last however long this has been going on for (about 4 millenia?). Could it be that some things that are written on here aren't total ballacks? If so, that's a worrying development

What now? If so, that's jolly poor form

Well if the F1 chumps can kiss and make up...

Somwehere between a and b I'd have thought. There will be a chain of decision making at the FL, but I'd have thought they'd want to put this to bed as quietly and quickly as possible. It's in nobody's interest for it to be aired in the public eye at length. Both sides will probably be in frequent contact with their legal eagles, because even changing the order of a few words on a contract have have major legal ramifications. This obviously adds time. Let's just hope it's not like the Simpsons, where Pinnacle have retained Lionel Hutz and the FL have Monty Burns' team of sharks.

It happens to everyone that hangs around this forum for a while!!! Going off on a tangent here (ooh err), how do players blatantly cheating on the pitch fit into this moral discussion? Is it perhaps accepted as OK because they all do it? I'm not trying to **** stir here, it's a point that has been spinning in my head for a few days.

Me. It's all my fault.

Fry will have been looking all along to sell all of the assets of SLH. So, assuming he hasn't sold any of the other bits he will do so if he can. He may have decided that he can dedicate more time to finding buyers for these bits post sale of SFC or it may be he has lumped anything remotely like an asset in the sale package for Pinnacle/AN Other to avoid the hassle (hmm...). Anyway, the sale of all these assets will yield a cash balance in SLH (i.e. the asset gets changed from a fixed asset to a current asset. Without the positive cashflows from SFC, Fry will conclude that SLH is not a viable concern and get it liquidated. Any remaining assets will then be sold at the best price possible, i.e. fire sale prices. Whatever cash balance will be distributed pro-rata to the creditors. Yes. What we don't know is the structuring of the deal. Much talk has been of promotion based payouts and the like, so it's likely that some of the settlements will have a deferred element. It's actually possible that none of the debt ends up being written off. That would shove two fingers up at the FL. Only if they've been naughty or have signed a contract admitting liability. In all other cases they are not liable for the company's liabilities. Otherwise there aint much point having a company.

To be fair David Defty probably specialises in distressed companies just as Pinnacle are said to specialise in distressed properties. Might be 2+2 = 5, but I'd imagine that's the link.

It's not Des Lynham - FACT.

Why are you so keen to convince everyone to move to your opinion Mr Engine? I'm not implying anything, this is a genuine question.

Oh no he di-unt! Man, he got served. F'd in the A on Saturday... Oh it's on! http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104249

I vote for Stevo to win the YouTube-pwnage-off

To be fair, if he was we probably wouldn't be able to understand what he was on about and it would probably turn into a rant about how everyone is "shouting him down". Oh ****!

Star Trekkin - The Firm

"Don't Leave Me This Way"

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Trican: The Dubai Consortium with a head office in Bury. The MOT Testing "facilitator" The Lawless Lord Actually, shouldn't this be a muscal?

LOL I think you are referring to something called Frivolous Litigation or Litigous Harassment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frivolous_litigation I like the idea of a "Motion to Kiss my Ass". Bless those Yankies. Unfortunately in this country you'll likely get Contempt of Court slapped on you

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