NickG

I don't like him but saints come first. You can no more say he was solely responsible for relegation than you can for the cup final -and think you realise that. He was to blame/credit for, to some extent both. Why when you reasoning fails do you resort to claiming people love lowe? Say more about you getting personal than any of my points.

and you are such a great supporter you would rather us relegated, playing in empty stadium, selling everyone - just because your dislike for someone sat in the stands in more important to you than enjoying watching saints. Bizarre.

I agree and that is why attendances will continue to drop until we improve. I will be gutted if he goes but I am not sulking about it now and staying away, will enjoy watching him while I can.

ok, try again - if you are saying Lowe is solely responsible for our poor season when we got relegated as he appointed the manager was he solely responsible for the good season prior to the as he appointed the manager for that period, including cup final? Just following the logic of your reasoning. not arguing about the respective quality or lack of it for various managers

go on try and answer it?! or does your logic fall down!

he doesn't play. How about going to support Lallana -great to watch, really tries and may not be here long - I tend to look at the pitch not directors box

but by identifying and appointing a relegated manager in WGS is he solely responsible to the good seasons under his and the cup final?

appointed by? sorry can't resist devil advocate in this logic!

does that single handedly arguement apply to the good seasons before it or cup final?

we don't know, which is why much of this banter on here is just that -we know nothing about the running of a football club to comment on the qualities of Lowe and Crouch. What we do know is the management appointments where Lowe caused problems in the past and Crouch followed suit with the Dodd/Gorman appointment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Gorr%C3%A9

http://www.dutchplayers.nl/player.php?id=95_DeanGorre

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was it you who posted this for game earlier in season? and was wrong, I can't remember who it was

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/11/24/reading-1-2-southampton-royals-cop-a-lesson-from-young-saints-115875-20920327/ another good read! Enjoy it when we can!

http://www.readingfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10306~1464922,00.html

yea its typical Alpine looking for more misery and conspiracy. As explained in two posts above Saints were committed to this timing when they released info to stock exchange so unless they were supremely confident in beating Reading, Alpine logic is flawed -now there's a first!

I think they should have been there, although some excuses would suffice (illness, death, forgot bus fare) however I do wonder if this is the mist recent of the throwing mud in hope some sticks only for it to be later shown to be false -previous non-attnedance, team talk etc (I always use etc when I can't think of another example;))

do you think he should leave then?

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stadium won't fill if he left but they will if we get promoted, its Chris who went to print saying he doesn't support saints anymore, and insulting anyone who did.

I supported Saints before Lowe, during Lowe, after Lowe, back with Lowe and will after Lowe. I do not support a boardroom but a team in red and white as I did as a 8 year old in the chocolate boxes. The day I am hoping for defeat and the demise of our club (in other worlds join you) then I will hang my head in shame.

lol!

oh well, Man City won -perhaps he will support them next?

Cracking Saints supporter! Remember this, how "Stanley" wants the demise of the club, for our youngsters to play to empty stadiums and all the promising ones to be sold when you read his posts. It maybe inevitable but to hope for it??