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There is only one thing I would like to add to your absolutely spot on report. All decent teams score about 60% of their goals from tap ins in the box, a few long shots and the rest set pieces. We don't do pace, width, byelines, and tap ins, our set pieces are awful and don't start me on our defending, the useless diamond and a lack of football common sense and basic awareness from both the management and players puts us where we are. The board has been cleared out, now it is time to clear out the football side, from top to bottom. Kids are coming into the side with no football awareness and just follow instructions from the manager/coaches, most of them struggle to hit a dead ball, and show no tactical awareness. What have these kids been doing in the academy for the last eight years and what the hell are they being taught.

We have to clear out the dead wood, sell those that can be sold for whatever they fetch or swop where we can, then get in virtually a whole new squad, otherwise we are going nowhere with the flaky bunch we are currently saddled with. FFS they can't even take a decent corner or free kick and when did a forward last score from a header or a tap in, that says it all for me. We need more players with the character of Gillett.

Let's learn a lesson for once. If the club survives never again employ the sort of shallow characters we have in abundance at the club. All through the season we have had a load of inane b-ollocks quoted on the official website from this player or that, how much they care, what they are going to do next etc, etc. Character and intelligence has to be criteria no1, then pace AND strength, then ability, that rules out virtually every member of the current squad. I think the academy needs a big overhaul, the level of football knowledge and technique displayed by the graduates to the first team is appalling, FFS most of them can't even kick a dead ball or shoot accurately. What do they do there. It seems as long as they can trap a bag of cement and look pretty that's enough.

Another one trick pony, the diamond midfield is plan A-Z. I don't want to see another season with acres of space on the wings being exploited by the opposition. The formation we are currently playing is negative and limited with the lack of ability and imagination of most of our players. Our downfall this year is as much down to the management as any other reason. We have hardly scored a goal from play in the six yard box all season, yet decent teams score 50-60% of all their goals from general play in the six yard box. We have also conceded a high proportion of goals in our six yard box. We need a manager who believes in attacking football, who will play down the wings and get players concentrating on getting to the byeline and balls into the box. That doesn't mean relying on the fullback pumping in balls from just inside the opponents half being gobbled up by the defence. If the crowds are going to come back, it will only be through exciting attacking football producing goals and results. It is all very well employing technical coaches as managers but most of them fail because of it. We need a MANAGER not a bloody blown up coach. There is a hell of a difference.

You are wrong in one respect, the football club are not in administration therefore can buy who they like once the window opens. Having said that, we have no money and staying out of administration until we are hopefully sold is the only objective.

The team have no fear of the management. If they thought for one moment they would have been brought straight back to Staplewood for a two hour training session, then absolutely murdered in training this morning. They would have looked at things differently. There has to be a fear factor with the manager as the bottom line. The board has to be part of this too making the players realise the manager is fireproof, and it's 100% or pain and fines.

You are absolutely spot on, I suspect the average Sotonian/fan feels the same way. I have long felt that, but didn't voice the opinion, now I think it is the single biggest impediment. If there is going to be a club in the future it has to get back to basics and budget for no more than 50% of income on the playing side. Get the scouting network up and running at div 1/2 and non league level and concentrate on character/pace/strength/ability. Bring through the kids in conjunction and pay for a couple of first class (at this level) player coaches. It is looking likely that the locals won't back the club, who can blame them. It has been a centre of underachievement and arrogance for too long now.

We should look carefully at the staff and virtually release or sell if we can all of them and start again with a new squad and a clean slate. None of the present lot will cut it on a regular basis in div 1. We need character and a will to win.

In the end it's whether you honour it if cash is required. It doesn't matter where you pledged, it's the honouring of the pledge that counts.

You could well be right but the Echo despite making noises about support are turning out to be an apathetic dead loss. They obviously don't give a stuff about the club but are milking the situation on a random basis. They need to show the website address every day but it isn't going to happen. The thought of the club going out of business is sickening, but it is getting clearer by the day cynicism and apathy is the reality together with a great deal of criticism from people who make an artform of doing nothing except gobbing off. If people don't like the way things are done, there is nothing to stop them doing something themselves, we all know that isn't going to happen. Sitting at a keyboard sniping is a far easier thing to do than getting off one's backside and trying to do something.

Can't you read? If there is a match and it isn't definite, it's not Leicester. That information came from someone at the meeting.

It's been on Solent with Kevin James, Mike Osman, Stuart Dennis on Radio Hampshire, Wave 105, The Echo haven't delivered apart from the first two days, they are supposed to be doing a howgozit panel daily with the address. We need to see what is happening outside the site, pledges mean little until the administrator announces imminent closure, If that doesn't concentrate minds to contribute money nothing will. At that point the publicity and reaction should gee everybody to focus on saving the club. It may well be, there isn't real support outside the hardcore supporters to save the club. We are very much in the hands of the media.

No, to measure the level of support outside the site.

There has been a meeting, a game was put forward, it's not Leicester. The Dyer transfer fee may put it on ice or postpone it until after the season is over.

Simply because he felt it was in HIS interests to let it go.

Only realistic if it is all there is, pledges mean nothing. If push comes to shove and there are no buyers the club can only be saved by the public will or go under because not enough care.

Of course they do Bill, otherwise there would have been a clear statement a week ago reiterating the league rules and when and how they would be applied.

In a nutshell, there is firstly apathy outside the site, secondly news is a one hit business, getting the media to keep this going is difficult, thirdly it won't really kick off until the administrator comes out and says 'that's it, we don't have a buyer, it's the backup plan or we're finished' That's when the media will kick in, the fans will go into panic mode and the incentive is there to save the club. At the moment the public are working on the assumption that it won't happen to us, that we are too big, valuable etc, somebody is bound to buy us. We shall see, the important thing is to be ready to act if things go badly. Pledges are all very well but are an indication of interest.

Pretty much. Already three sets of lawyers have disected the league's rule. They have obviously come to the same conclusion and the league already know the answer. Mawhinny is a politician, together with the committee, don't want their paw prints on this, so have handed the job of breaking the news to yet another group of lawyers, who will come to the same inevitable conclusion as the others at great expense. They will then display mock horror and declare that the 'loophole' will be closed. Firstly there is no loophole, the rule would only apply if SFC Ltd was in administration and it's not. In any event it is the FA/league rules which stipulated the public company had to be independent from the football club company. No club can sue the league having agreed to waive that right as a condition of entry to the league, they can only use the appointed tribunals of the league's grievance procedures. SLH Ltd can however sue the pants off the league if they cause them losses by damaging their asset, as they are a public company outside the jurisdiction of the football authorities..

Apologies Bill, yes I was going to send you an email with my address but got wrapped up in all this. I'll be in touch shortly and fill you in on everything. The Lexus incident must have hacked you off big time.

Thats just it, we are not in administration, it's getting really frustrating pointing out to people who can't be bothered to read the information, or are really too thick to understand the most simple facts. SLH Ltd. the publically quoted owners of the whole shareholding in SFC Ltd (the club) are in administration. SFC Ltd, the club, are not in administration and are still trading. The significance of the club going into administration is the immediate penalty of 10 points deducted after the last match of the season if we are NOT relegated, which would then ensure relegation, OR in the event of being relegated already the 10 point deduction is applied at the start of next season. The league have a massive problem as the company in administration is a public company not in their jurisdiction. SFC Ltd which is under their jurisdiction is NOT in administration. That is why they have called an enquiry. That is why the sale of Dyer contracted with Swansea for about £500,000 should ensure solvency for the forseeable future. Buying time to sort out new ownership of SLH and avoid a 10 point deduction. No new owner given the choice would entertain not selling Dyer, and the football club as a result going into administration. Furthermore he is being sold, short of unforeseen events.

Your comments are much appreciated, I hope we are never needed, that would be the best result.

Maybe when people get advance information and post it on here the cynics and know nothings that rubbish it immediately should wait and see. This sort of information would have no source as it was information that neither club had announced. I am hearing all sorts of things now, but I'm damned if I'm going to put any of it on here. The funny thing is, the know nothing, do nothing critics and it's always the same ones never apologise for their unwarranted remarks when proved premature.

I'll take those things up Terry, there is only one initiative, the club's emergency fundraising is really a side issue, not for them but for us. The website is the focal point for the initiative and pledges and no matter the source everything is channelled back to the saintsweb/saveoursaints. 1 & 6 were dealt with today, Echo looking to put a daily update panel and web address plus article, on BBC Solent by Kevan James and Radio Hampshire, Stuart Dennis/myself/Mark Dennis all giving the address.

Don't bother Frank, it hinges on so many imponderables, I wouldn't even dream of giving the subject thought at the moment. The only situation that this initiative will see the light of day is if there are no buyers and the club is going out of business. In the unlikely event of a preferred bidder not being able to close a bid we could appeal to be able to assist the bid. The whole criteria in the event would be to live within the income and don't spend what the club hasn't got. That is the only criteria to consider and the only time any money would be required. The only caveat is that if there was a good buyer who was unable to close a deal then an appeal to help that bid could be considered.