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Quite likely, but we would then have the football club in administration as well. Better this way.

Nothing to do with the bank, I think more to do with whether operations could continue, and that is down to the directors. We know that times are desperate, they have been quite open about it. The staff also are wondering whether they will be paid this month. If the players weren't paid there are all sorts of problems. This does make a lot of sense in the circumstances.

You are correct, but Steve has been an immense help, and it is entirely sensible that he is protective and sensitive to the interests of saintsweb. In any event, if the need arises there will be a panic from the media, the city, and the fans to try and save the saints. The account details would be published here, in the media and people would pay direct into the bank account.

The saints trust has at this time been ruled out. The intention is to set up whatever is required on a tailored basis should the need arise. We have no wish to take on board a warts and all situation with historical baggage. There are numerous people in the background from these and other professions who have inundated us with offers of advice and assistance when and if the need arises.

Then that also means nothing until the effluent hits the oscillator and the pledges are called in. Giving an email is in the end just as irrelevant, as nobody will be chasing up addresses, there would be a general appeal for those that pledged and anybody else willing, to put money into an account or pay in cheques. Either way as I've said before the pledges are a guide to the level of interest and possible support. If the pledged amount is nowhere near the required amount the whole initiative will sadly end there.

That'll do, sums it up nicely, but much more eloquently,

It doesn't matter but it would be helpful to keep the entities separate.

Along the lines of a desperately close run thing.

Maybe the Stadium? That link to Highcross property fund managers.

Possibly somebody getting prepared, hopefully.

The football club company is not in administration. I think Wellington summed it up with what he said after Waterloo.

Can you pm me what you know.

I did hear that we were desperately close on Friday. If that gets the bank off our backs through the fee being guaranteed on a certain date then that is a result in itself.

Better to try and do something and fail. As to looking like an idiot, I think it's the talkers and negative do nothings that pledged and didn't put up when called in will look the idiots. The intelligent people will know that it was genuine attempt to potentially try and save the club if all else fails. Failing is not a problem for me and not being needed is the best result possible.

I think it maybe needed guarantees that the bank would accept. SLH is in administration, but I'm sure any potential buyer would support any move to keep the club from administration and the definite points deduction it would bring with it.

Well I happen to know some people who have pledged decent amounts on there and have nothing at all to do with the site. In the end the pledges mean nothing they are a guide and until called in are unquantifiable. Hopefully nobody else from the site will pledge twice, provided they read this page.

Not at all as the whole emphasis is putting a structure in place that is able to launch an appeal in he event there is no other way. The club couldn't be saved otherwise. What is happening here is just a poll measuring possible interest. It is raising awareness, getting media onside, and just being organised and ready in the event of imminent liquidation. I am too much of a realist to be fooled by false promises, What is happening serves it's purpose in opening doors we want to open.

We know there is £53k from 45 pledgees in two days, I suspect not a lot from here if any. That sum indicates a total lack of awareness or interest. We need to get the message out with the website address and see what support builds up as a result, the last thing we want is £900,000 repeat pledges, to totally distort the picture, as we have no idea who has pledged what. That won't matter in the end as it is only the actual money contributed that counts, the pledges only indicate an interest not a guaranteed commitment.

We really need to keep the web side of the appeal and public side of the appeal separate and current so that we can measure the speed of publicity and the public support. Those that have pledged on here should leave it at that for the present. If that alters you'll be the first to know. It's the support on this site that has given the initiative it's current credibility. I realise that, however the pledges on this site are opening a lot of relevant doors that otherwise wouldn't be opened to us. I don't want to lose that connection. In the end pledges mean three tenths of FA. They are really a rough measure of the interest, We really need to know the level of support outside the site. If there isn't the required level of support the initiative is clearly going nowhere. I will say however that in the event of the situation arising that the administrator says there are no buyers for the club, there will be an enormous media surge and fan reaction, that is the point, god forbid, that the structure in place will be able to publically launch the request for funds. We are widening the media support, today the site was given out on BBC Radio Solent, and Kevin James is going to do repeats and try and get the tv side to put it out. Radio Hampshire are doing a piece today and tonight, we are talking to the Echo about another article and hopefully daily updates. We are giving the media a focal point by putting the structure in place, which will kick in if we are all that is left to save the club from extinction.

No because we won't have a clue what the measure of support from the public is.

The club has done the deal the administrator can't be seen to be connected.

I'm a realist, I realise the shortcomings, the simple fact is in the end if we need to raise money from the pledgees it will be backs to the wall time. They will either stump up or not, there is not a thing anybody can do about that. In any event should the saints be going out of business in a matter of days a whole new ball game would open up with the saturation media coverage and a lot more people would be aware, but unless something substantial is in place, however willing the fans are to contribute, there would be nowhere for them go. There would be no way then of saving the club in the time.

I'm not leaking information it came from a media source but too late for today's paper. I understand the fee is circa £500k.

If you have clicked on a sum on here then it is registered on this thread.

Let me clarify the situation. The original SOS group was started by Mike Fenner about three months ago and have a website www.saveoursaints.info which isn't up to taking pledges. I started the thread on here and was amazed at the support and contacted the administrator, who asked that we carry on as a backstop in case there was no buyer. He then put the SOS group in touch with me, we met and decided to join up and go public. Steve Grant set up the www.saintsweb.co.uk/saveoursaints section to take the public pledges. The reason for the two pledge sections being kept live and separate is so that we can measure the public interest rather than the site members pledging twice which would then give us a distorted idea of the public support. The OS/club's initiative is them using the words 'save our saints' for their cash appeal to keep themselves going in the short term. These are two separate things with different aims. Our group was there first but who would deny the club using the same words to raise funds, after all they are the saints. I have heard this morning that the Dyer permanent transfer and fee has been agreed with Swansea and although the fee won't be paid until the window opens the guarantee underwrites the immediate future with the bank.