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Don't even go there.

I'm still going to stick something in the pot, there are a lot of good, totally innocent people in the club, wondering if they are going to be paid this month, and worrying how they are going to pay their bills if they aren't. If everybody who could afford it stuck £10/£20 in the bucket it would certainly help.

I've looked into the situation re the club and things like bucket collections. They are not in a position with all that is hanging over their head to do this. You couldn't make it up, even the bloody bucket must have a sealed lid. I think that the saints trust should have advertised on here as soon as they knew they were going to do one and get a pool of volunteers rather than a post on Easter sunday looking for volunteers at the last moment.

Cloggies don't appreciate advice.

I would have thought it was entirely appropriate as we are about to disappear down the plughole.8-[

I've read the posts, he's not his usual proactive IMHO self, It looks as though there may be doubt about/from his contacts. The separating the stadium from the business is linked to more than one possible buyer. However I would have thought the real attraction of SLH is the knockdown stadium price, together with the other property, giving real value if there are no debts. Leasing the stadium in perpetuity isn't the best deal but would appeal to people who can't raise sufficient funds. Not the best deal unless it's the only deal.

All the information in the posts on here.

Methinks, that may be more difficult to answer, I'm not talking about the attire. If Morph isn't posting it indicates that confidence in this deal happening is possibly low or maybe the deal has been put on ice.

Do keep up Clarkie;) it's on the OS.

I was once told that when I walked into work, people were looking to see did I need to be given a wide berth. That's the sort of relationship they needed, I also know how to treat people well, and make them want to stay. I think the manager walking in at halftime and launching something dramatic like a tray of drinks at the wall tends to concentrate the minds wonderfully.

Probably a comfort factor, that needs to be surgically removed.

Doesn't look like too many volunteered.

If you need a tyre kicked, or a freeloader, you are spoilt for choce here.

Wotte isn't the coach to get the best out of him, or the others, his reputation isn't wrong.

Or the whole team runs out to Staplewood and after a big meal, do a pre season training session at midnight. Be a lot of clearing up to do but who cares we don't want many of them next year.

Ain't that a fact. 16 reasonable ones would be better.

You obviously have a pretty good idea about the importance of blend, you are right about the left side, the only thing about your team that concerns me is the centre midfield, plenty of guts but no passing ability.

Another half decent battleing side, but it won't be, it'll be the narrow diamond full of lightweight options.

Very true, but beating the same player once would be enough for me, but three times while the defence tightens up doesn't work. Play the boy on the correct side. See if he can get to the line. Wotte has this obsession with players coming inside onto their good foot and shooting, only they don't shoot.

I have been very severe on Schneiderlin on the kitchen sink thread but in the context this is a 'in the trenches win at all costs game'. Small wonder this technically accomplished player is unhappy. This bloody diamond he is asked to play in, is a nonsense. He needs wide players out on the lines, the front men coming off their markers and real movement from the other players. At the moment the pair of midfield players have few options, pass to each other, pass it back or lump it up to the centrebacks. He probably feels that we are a basket case and we are. What do I think the team will be. -------------------------Davis ---------James-----Saeijs-------Perry------Skacel --------------Smith----Wotton----Surman ----------------------McGoldrick ----------------Saganowski------Euell Subs: Forecast, Liptak, Lallana, Schneiderlin, BWP. What do I think it should be. -----------------------------Davis ----------Wotton----Saeijs---------Perry------Skacel ---------Saganowski--James-------Surman----BWP/Holmes ----------------------McGoldrick--Euell Subs: Forecast, Liptak, Paterson, Smith, Holmes.

How many times have you heard, 'They threw everything at them but the kitchen sink' Well, metaphorically speaking its time to pick a last chance saloon team and throw everything including the kitchen sink at our last four games. Bugger draws and defeats, go for broke. We are going down anyway, so what is there to lose. Well here's what I've got in mind. As few lightweights as possible for a start. A half decent back four, and a bit of bite in midfield and up front. Keep the ball on the deck. Forget the bloody diamond, get the ball wide and down the touchlines, nothing up the middle. Throw ins: down the line forcing defenders to concede more, work the ball into the corner and try and win corners Saeijs takes all the free kicks and penalty if we get one. Euell runs interference on Saeijs at corners and non shot free kicks. Keeps the marker from blocking Saeijs. --------------------Davis Wotton------Saeijs----------Perry-----Skacel Saganowski---James--------Surman------BWP ----------------Euell-----McGoldrick Subs: Forecast, Liptak, Paterson, Holmes, Smith. We are really pretty poor when it comes to looking for character.

I'm not being stroppy:). But I've lost count of the number of times I've stated the bloody obvious. Firstly, the administrator is responsible for SLH only, yes I do know that they own all the shares in SFC. He cannot have any visible administrative connection with SFC otherwise he would give the league all that they needed to penalise us. SFC is run by the staff/ David Jones/Kevin Toynton. The administrator liases with them. Any money collected goes through the ticket office or David Jones into SFC which is solvent at present and not in administration. The collections and fundraising is to try and raise enough funds to ensure that the club keeps going and doesn't fall into administration as well. There is no collection for the public company in administration.

Just so we can get some idea how many have been able to help out.

Steve, this really hacks me off, it's a fiasco and bloody incompetent, Wednesday I emailed John O'Sullivan, commercial director about a bucket collection, and offered to try and raise 100 volunteers if we could. David Luker emailed me back on Thursday, the Trust are doing a bucket collection and don't need volunteers. If volunteers were needed though he would email me immediately. No wonder we are in the bloody mess we are, they don't even have the wit to organise a bloody bucket collection properly. It's alright talking about things, but to get things done it takes a lot more than that.