Jimmy_D

... Bourdais was the one penalised? I mean, Hamilton being penalised today... I can sort of understand that, unusual for a penalty to be given for a first corner incident but Hamilton did overcook it. But that, combined with only a drive through for Massa for barrelling across the grass to ram Hamilton, combined with Bourdais and not Massa being penalised for Massa crashing into him (effectively a stop and go penalty as well, so no chance of an appeal), combined with absolutely nothing for Massa overtaking outside the confines of the track along the home straight, when the defending driver thought he'd done enough by putting his one defensive move allowed against the white line... the edge of the track... (every other occasion has been penalised with a stop and go penalty unless the position was given back and not taken back until after the next corner, but those were on a corner and not Red cars I guess) I love F1 but I can't enjoy this...

Hm, first off, Stephen Hawking is English, and is considered one of the world best (possibly THE best) scientists, he was the first person to think of the big bang theory, as well as many theorems on black holes, and is also one of the longest lived survivors of ALS (a form of motor neurone disease), when he was first diagnosed with it when he was 21 he was given 3 years to live, he's now 66. His American voice comes from a voice synthesizer that isn't made any more, that he's had ever since he lost his own voice due to pnumonia, and he's never changed it as he didn't want his voice to change, it's how he thinks of himself as sounding. As for the LHC, full speed collisions won't be happening for a few weeks, they'll be doing experiments that use the same sort of energy as currently existing particle accelerators have been doing for years. Once they do start doing full speed collisions, they're expecting microscopic black holes to be created as a possibility, however, the term 'black hole' doesn't really explain it. A black hole is another term for a singularity, a point that has mass but no volume. The black holes that are going to be created are tiny, smaller than the mass of a single atom, and they'll decay in a fraction of a second due to Hawking Radiation. They won't suck the Earth in from inside out. There are an awful lot of scientists involved in this, some of the greatest minds the world has ever produced, and the vast majority of them are absolutely sure that the LHC is safe, as they point out that higher energy particle collisions occur every second due to particles from the Sun hitting Earth. I'm sure that none of them have a death wish, and the vast majority would not be willing to risk their own lives and the lives of their families, let alone the entire world, for a scientific experiment, so if they say it's safe, I'm inclined to agree with them... I'm not going to suddenly go out and spend all my savings. Of the scientists saying it might not be safe, none of them have anything more than a university degree as far as I've seen, so the probablility is that they're trying to make a bit of a name for themselves by associating their names with one of the biggest scientific events to ever occur. Of course, there's always the chance that the scientists are wrong, and the world will all be sucked into a black hole that'll then continue to suck the rest of the solar system in, along with eventually neigbouring star systems, and then eventually orbits the black hole that our galaxy orbits around. Humanity will have left a giant 'we woz ere' sign that would last long after Humanity would have likely survived

I guess Le Tiss is on the list along with a few others because they played for us this season in Claus' testimonial.

Didn't hear any booing at the players myself, only at the ref and the opposition timewasters. There were some shouts of frustration aimed at the players, but that was at least partly down to Blackpools efforts to frustrate us succeeding, with time running out and it looking increasingly like we were going to lose to an undeserved penalty (as it seemed to most people in the stadium at the time, especially as practically the entire Blackpool front line encroached and on first look without a replay didn't seem like it should have been a pen in the first place) The booing at the end was the release of all that frustration and as far as I could tell not aimed at the players.

I admit that I haven't had the chance to see a replay of the pen yet, but my initial reaction, and that of those around me was that it shouldn't have been a penalty, yes, no doubt biased because of the colours I wear, and I'd probably have wanted a penalty if roles were reversed (in fact I DID on at least one occasion, that wasn't given), but that was how I saw it without a replay at the time. I felt that we played good football in the first half and deserved to go into half time in front, especially as it felt like if we'd have scored one of those two that were cleared off the line the game would have opened up with Blackpool having to come after us. Once the penalty had been given of course, the ref could do very little right in the eyes of the crowd, including me, I'm pretty sure all the goals that were disallowed were disallowed by the linesman, so that didn't help him much. added to that was the perception that other decisions were going against us (bookings that weren't deserved for our players, Blackpool players 'getting away with it' plus the old favourite of deciding to pull back for a free kick to us when advantage would have seen us get a shot off at goal, etc.) That along with Blackpool taking their undeserved (as I saw it at the time) lead and playing with 11 men behind the ball, trying to catch us on the break, as well as time wasting right from the start of the 2nd half added to the frustration that saw me make that initial post. On reflection, I still feel like we'd have gone on and won if we'd have taken either of those goal line clearances, but we didn't so we didn't deserve to win. Maybe we could have scraped out a draw from the 2nd half on another day but that wasn't to be either. As for not blaming the officials... I reserve the right to blame the officials, the weather, and even the flipping kitman if I feel like they contributed to lost points Whatever happened to blindly following your team and believing they were the best in the world no matter what!

Just back, can't believe that poor imitation of officiating the bloke in the middle (I think he was supposed to be the ref) was doing. I thought we played well in the first half and with a little more luck would have been 2 or 3 up at the break. As it was we conceded the penalty, looked very harsh from right in front of me where I was sat. 2nd half we didn't play as well. Partly because they were picking up bookings and you could see them getting more and more annoyed with the ref. Even so, we were creating chances and I was convinced the goal would come for us, wasn't to be though. Really can't believe we've just lost that, we didn't deserve to.

JP's shaak up of the team will curry on bringing us good football on the pitch ^^

can't believe I missed the start of this thread, I was Vin da loo.

1-0 to us with a host of missed chances and me biting my finger stumps (nails will be long gone) out for the 4 or 5 minutes injury time the ref somehow managed to find from somewhere. I'll be there to cheer us on ^^

If Rudi Skacel does end up leaving, as he doesn't seem to be part of our plans at the moment, and Lallana keeps on playing like he's been playing, he's gotta be a candidate for the No. 7 shirt next season imho

OLE! Very happy with that ^^ Very very tempted to go on Saturday now, despite it being on TV

Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin, does whatever a striker can! Tackles players any size, kicks the ball and it flies! Look out! Here comes our Schneiderlin.

1-0 ^^ woot!

Come on Saints! If we beat Shef Utd. with the crud we had last season from 0-1, we can bloody well win here from 1-1!

Agreed!

WOOOOOOOOO! COYR! uh... WOOT!

hm, I guess not... Every goal you score is a goal against that lot down the M27, even more reason to play ^^

http://www.playforyourclub.com/ Alternative to punchaceleb for idling away those long hours between Saints matches and takeover rumours, all the points you score are put into the total for your team, and each week scores are reset with promotion/relegation happening. We're in league one at the moment, but judging by the punchaceleb count, we could be Premiership Champions within a month ^^ (oh, and 'iya all, long time lurker, first time poster, someone really should make a sticky introductions thread or something ^^)