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On one hand, it would be very disappointing to lose Tino after spending a year plus fixing him. On the other hand, if I’d had a major injury like that I think I’d want to sign that big contract ASAP, just in case I had further troubles or wasn’t really the same player afterwards. He still has 3 years in his contract and we hold the cards really, he will be itching to play football again. Is being a back up to Trippier bad for his development (playing less games) or better for him to work up to speed and improve his stamina issues etc. you can make arguments for both I suppose.

Doesn’t mean we won’t sell but good to see Jacob confirming the obvious, that we would not sell for £12-15m.

Surely £12-15m is a non starter, whether the player wants to go or not. I agree, given his potential and how important he could be to our chances of promotion, it’s £30m minimum. Of course his injury history puts doubts on value for that price and therefore a deal shouldn’t go through. This is not a player we need to sell, I can’t understand why we would entertain selling at half our valuation. Had Tino not been injured for a year I’m sure his plan was 2 years with us and then move to a big club. It’s the usual timeframe for talents passing through and we would have been looking for that £36m value at least. Ryan Fraser, we were linked with him before the January window. I hope that is agents rather than us having a genuine interest in a player with Prowsey wages that hasn’t played top level footy for a while, trains with their B Team and seemingly has an attitude problem. He wouldn’t fit Martin’s system either. In summary, please make it make sense for me, I’m struggling

Daily Mail also claims we are having a recruitment meeting today.

If players come back on Wednesday as rumoured, that’s 37 days to get us playing his way. He needs to manage the outgoings and incomings to fit his style and we still don’t have a coaching team to support him yet (let’s hope that’s in place in the comings days, not sure how it works without). It’s a big ask to hit the ground running isn’t it? September fixtures look like our toughest run of fixtures for the entire season so dropping points in August might give us a bit of a hill to climb. So much uncertainty and change ahead, intrigued to see what we are actually going to look like as a team by the end of the window.

Tella stays?

This article confirms the different compensation values, so we are haggling over a £500k difference. Legal battle likely and backroom staff is still not resolved. Maresca is also claimed in this article to be our first choice. Which makes you wonder why we didn’t just wait for City to end their season, unless he was already lined up for Leicester when we first approached him.

I would be gutted to see us lose our captain and Mr. Southampton to a team like Fulham who are 1 year in the prem. Why not wait and see if we make it back at the first attempt if you love the club? I can understand moving to one of the big boys or a Brighton/Villa/WHU who have ambitions to be the best of the rest. Also a ‘close to £30m’ fee doesn’t feel like good value to us.

We will certainly be spending more than this!

Jobi McAnuff thinks we will be a good watch under Russell Martin, but he needs to convert that to ‘winning football’.

I agree that there are unknowns as to how well he will do with a different squad and higher expectations. The same would apply for any manager taking a new role. At this moment, it isn’t clear what our strongest 11 is going to be. What is clear is that we have backed a manager with potential, a clear identity and consistent stats over 2 former clubs that suggest we will have more possession and shots on goal than our opponents. It’s now up to him to deliver on this opportunity and hopefully Mowbray/Wilcox/Ankerson give him better tools to do that than he has ever had before. If they do, we will find out if the lack of resources in the past is why his teams conceded more than they should have statistically or if it’s down to playing too much around his own box.

The stats that give me confidence is that his Swansea team were ranked very high for possession, progressive passes, shots and expected goals. They were also ranked very low for expected goals against and shots against. They clearly conceded way more than they should have based on that, so my hope is that with a better squad and more resources, Saints will perform closer to those stats and that should make for a strong season. Appreciate football is played on grass and we have so much change happening behind the scenes and on the pitch. Underlying stats aren’t everyone’s bag, but I can see logic. I would add that Russell Martin isn’t an appointment that I’m particularly excited about and I hd hoped we might be able to get a bigger name with experience in earning promotion but hopefully this works out, it needs to!

We signed 10 in the summer window didn’t we? We are going to lose a fair few players, I don’t think 8+ would be a surprise for incomings.

Saints do a calendar subscription: https://ics.ecal.com/ecal-sub/5d0394641aef001c3f8b457f/Southampton FC.ics Sky Sports do too: https://www.skysports.com/calendars/football/fixtures/teams/southampton?live=false

Already confirmed as Friday night on Sky

Reads like we are paying the lower fee but they will appeal?

You wouldn’t be best pleased after spending £110.

We read reports that Maresca was also on our list, if not our first choice. I appreciate Leicester have been more successful recently and had been in the top 8 the last 3 seasons before relegation. However, with our links to City, Wilcox and a big budget to build a team in your image, I struggle (even with SR taking some bizarre risks last season) to see why Maresca wouldn’t see us as a better fit for him. Jones aside we do often show more patience to managers than most too. This makes me wonder if Martin was always our first choice and we had just sounded our Maresca as an option. Unless the treble win has given him an ‘I’ve completed it’ vibe to try something new/change his mind, and by this time we had already moved on. Regardless, it will be very interesting to see how he does at Leicester. The Parma failure would be a worry, as was the Stoke experience for Nathan Jones. The only Saints announcement I can remember dragging on so long was Rudi Skacel!

Guess you can’t blame Swansea for chancing their hand at another £750k, we were technically a PL club when we approached Martin. Seems obvious we won’t pay a release clause until we are officially a championship club then? Mirrors the end of June comments from the ownership?

Is the latest Echo article (part 2) behind a paywall?

What was his assessment out of interest? I’m guessing that he wasn’t anywhere near ready to be a PL number 1?