Le Timmier

So what you're saying is that in 4 out of the last 5 seasons, the team finishing 17th would need either 35 or 36 points to survive? Not sure how/why you think that is any different to what I said? OK, it's been 35 points more often than 36 points in recent seasons, that's why I said "more or less" - it's near as damnit.

I said we'd likely need a minimum of 36 points to stay up. Which proved to be a an entirely accuate estimation. If we had a total of 34 points we would have finished 18th or 19th, depending on GD

Nothing about Jesse Marsch, but just saw @Fabrice29 talking about the qualities of AMN on the Transfer Window thread and it reminded me to dig this out. Cheers 🙂

Would love to see Tall Paul at left back for the lols

I'd be hanging onto AA. He scored 28 goals in his last Championship season. Decent chance we will finally see some return on our investment.

Yep, thought he was terrific today. Looked a lot more confident too

I reckon he has underlying health issues. Not based on any knowledge - just a hunch.

Damn those Nuno Ty's

Ah! Ze finest of ze german sowsez! Can’t keep my eyes off your avatar mate. Hells bells

What odds on Rasmus being in the dugout himself before the season ends? Only half joking.

Sure, but when putting forward an opinion people don’t usually post it as though it’s a fact e.g. ”I reckon the players want” as opposed to “the players want”

Dodd and Gorman and Wise and Bassett

Source?

But but but! He played 8 games for us in 1996!! And Brighton is on the South Coast! (or something)

It's not "my" magical 36 points. It's not a figure plucked out of the air. It's evidence based. It is more-or-less the points total that the team finishing 17th in the EPL usually needs to avoid the drop.

Baffling? To stay up we're going to (more than likely) need a minimum 36 points. That's a further 21 points. That's SEVEN wins. Over the course of a season, 7 wins in 16 games is comfortably top-8 form. We only managed 9 league wins in the whole of last season - and only 4 in this. The upturn in form required to attain the minimum 21 points we require just isn't going to happen.

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I'd like to think we have properly considered Stephen Warnock

Are you practising your American accent? Yee haw!

It was Gaston Ramirez - Lawrenson said it was "never going to happen" Shame GR was shit

Yep. I've spent a fair bit of time in Buenos Aires and follow River Plate as a second team. Even got two RP replica shirts.

Braga didn't buy Fran Navarro either

Why?

For me it's more that we still require 60% of the likely points required to stay up (based on a total of 36). 60% of the points in 40% of the season - after the run we've been on and the form we're in - just seems highly unlikely whichever manager we bring in.

Both fairly average at spin