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I watched the match didn't seem to bad as he played on for another 25 minutes after getting treatment. I'd assumed he was subbed off because some kid who plays for Blackburn was skinning him every time they ended up one on one with each other.

Over between Wales and Holland 3-2 to the Dutch very entertaining game with some great goals and good football....might start watching wales instead of England in the future

Clasie off played well tonight nothing fancy just effectively going about his job.

3-2 to the Dutch Arjen Robben again

Not sure he went down and got some treatment but then played another 25 minutes of the 1st half. TBH VVD was getting done by some kid that plays for Blackburn every time he found himself one on one with him so he might just have been taken off because of that.

2-2 bloody good game this Wales v Netherlands match

Just goes to show how crap qualifying for international tournaments is. The Dutch (a team who didn't qualify for the euros) are playing some great football and bossing Wales and would IMO give England a bit of battering on this form.

Dutch 2-1 up Arjen Robben scores a great individual goal.

They might be getting on a bit but Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben are an absolute class above of every other player on the pitch in this game.

Second half VVD replaced by Joel Veltman

Wales get one back after a dodgy penalty for hand ball penalty saved rebound turned in I must say Wales play more exciting football than England.

Clasie looking pretty good for the Dutch tonight working hard, decent passing and doing the defensive stuff well against Wales (who admittedly are missing Bale and Ramsey) nothing spectacular but solid and effective.

Dutch 1-0 up Bas Dost

VVD getting given the run around by some kid playing at Blackburn...

Wales game on the BBC site if anyone interested http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/wales/34779353

VVD down getting treatment EDIT; back on the pitch thank god

VVD getting done by Tom Lawrence there

I'm glad the Koemans didn't bring this style of Dutch football to saints three centre backs playing passes between them for five minutes at a time does not make for gripping watching.

Jordy getting caught in possession allowing wales to break:(.....then follows up with a good defensive tackle:)

???? the trolling around this place has really gone down hill recently..

Because they have Monk as manager a young guy with little experience of management or playing at high level. While we have a manager who has played and managed at a high level in several different countries and has a wealth of experience to call on........would be my guess. I imagine if we swapped mangers with Swansea our current table positions would be rather different.

Maybe we should send him to the erdivisie worked for Pelle who was pretty bang average until he rocked up in the Netherlands. Maybe we could get a Dutch feeder club like Chelsea with Arnhem.

yeah but then in all likely hood we will bring in another player (or two) in another position(s) to so the squad will be strengthened by that money.

He really wasn't. Half decent crossing didn't make up for his terrible defending never seen a full back with such poor positional sense as Fox.

Well what ever Man U were offering for Mane it's time to tell then to double it.... Manchester United has reported that overall quarterly revenues to 30 September went up 39.3% to £123.6m. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34797243