S-Clarke

It's good to know that they've come out in the 2nd half much better.

Maybe we need Dominc Calvert-Lewin and Tom Davies?

If anyone sums up the current era for the wrong reasons, it's probably him to be honest. Good lad, but he makes me cringe as much as the football team.

Absolutely, we're long past the 'project' phase at this point. The entire football club is broken and it needs leadership at all levels, but a key part is a manager who can garner respect immediately and call out the bollocks, not more 'yes' men who are happy to go with the status-quo. Will SR allow that though, as they seem to want to push their dictact on any manager they appoint. And you'll never get anyone with any gravitas coming with that behind them.

Fabrice will be along soon to tell you that's all nonsense, and the players are fine.

We do, but the partner still needs to inject pace and movement into the team. There is simply no pace to our game, I'm not talking about players being quick - it's just that quick of mind to move and play the ball quick on the run. Jander did that at the start in his first few games, but it's all gone now.

Are you having a fucking laugh? This has been as bad as anything I've seen. In other games you could at least put up some annoying/frustrating missed chances, lack of clinicalness etc. But we haven't even got into their box. This is as bad as it's been.

The problem is that they cannot pass forward, they are passive and self preserving. They are looking after themselves and are too wimpish to play a forward pass at the fear of losing the ball. That's why the likes of Leo is out on the pheriphery as no one can get the ball to him. Downes = safe ball, because he's all about self preservation - just like his dad. Jander is catching the same elements of his game. In the CM you need players who can 1) break the game up and 2) stamp their foot and move/drive with the ball. We have neither, they just play it safe. As long as we continue to do that whatever we have wide is irrelevant.

This is as bad as the Wotte and Port era without question. Not sure where we go from here, as we all knew before - the problems are way bigger than any manager. For us to recover any sort of competitiveness this year we initially need someone who can shake the shit out of these losers, drop a load in January, stabilise and then go from there.

Aren't we known as 'The Lunatic Fringe' ? I'd personally stick Wade Garett on that advisory board.

Exactly trousers, weak as piss. That's all they are.

So this Fan Advisory board nonsense, how about they just communicate to everyone? Why hide behind these vetted people? Wimps, the lot of them. Come out and own your mistakes to the masses, don't hide behind those who you know will kiss your arse.

I mean muscle memory is part of it, but the question is why move stuff around when it was perfectly fine where it was. There are also some really, really odd stretch issues with some of the panels and how they overlap if you play window mode. It looks an utter mess to be honest. As I said, the graphics are better....but it's not as revolutionary as I thought it was going to be. For 2 years to wait for this - it's a bit flabbergasting really.

That argument dies a death when you look at what they've wasted over the last 4 years, pretty much every window they've presided over has been a catastrophic mess. They've wasted money. We have no idea where this money is coming from or if they're racking up debts to make these mistakes, no idea. But I'm past the point of giving them any slack because of this reasoning now. You can spend all the money you want, but if you just continue to make the same mistakes then you are putting that environment into financial turmoil. You wait - next summer when we inevitably are still in the Championship, you'll start to hear all of the nonsense about finances and how we need to look after the club, reduce cash outgoings etc etc.

I get that people hate change, and the automatic way to react to change is to downvote the heck out of that thing - but they've really made what was a solid experience absolutely horrific. The match engine is better, but it's not an enormous graphical advancement - it just looks a bit more polished. The UI though looks like something out of a kids tablet, it's terrible. It's not just cluttered, but they've moved stuff around into the most un obvious places for no real benefit or reason at all. I used to play previous games in windowed mode, but that is pretty shit too as it stretches out the UI to make it look even worse. It may get better once the modding community get involved, but it's a good few months away from being anything worth playing I think. Cheers for nothing @Matthew Le God (joke by the way).

Not sure you can truly rate anyone above disappointing when we're sat 21st after spending £50m. They have all been shit as far as I'm concerned, some lesser levels of shit than others, but all still fairly shit.

It's that sort of shit which blows my mind, if they were really caring about this issue they'd have done this remotely on a remote summit - which can happen. But no, they all wanted a big jolly to Rio staying in what I'd assume are plush 5* hotels and given free meals. They can't preach about it and then do everything they say is causing it. The whole world is backwards. Stop the world, I want to get off.

I think under the current regime it would be another miserable experience. We need an entire gutting to be in a position to compete at any level I think. I genuinely don't see any chance of promotion this year, next year or the year after - it will be more a case of looking over our shoulder in the years to come. The ownership have regressed the quality of this club year on year and that isn't just going to change over night.

Are you conveniently forgetting the strop Downes performed in January, and pretty much refused to play for Juric - which he kind of said in as many words. I wouldn't say Stephens was central to us getting promoted, he was a squad player for the majority of the season as Bednarek and THB owned the CB spots. Downes/THB/Stephens were not 'nailed on' for Still, Downes is pretty much a bench player (if he's not ill). You do spout some nonsense to anyone who dares go against the club narrative.

So there were no benefits to it then. Let's rewind a bit then, why didn't we pick him up before Goztepe did? We could have loaned him to Goztepe and then had him back as our player. We did the same with Matsuki and Juan, who ended up going there anyway. Why are Goztepe having better results with scouting, when we should have been the 'flagship' club of their model? Romulo was grabbed from the Brazilian leagues during the same time we were shopping around for Juan and Wellington - irrelevant positions for us in the grand scheme of things. The relationship doesn't help us. We help them. We got a smaller fee for Charly so Gotzepe could get a Brazilian on loan as part of the deal, again - doesn't benefit us.

Imagine Keane and Romeu walking into the dressing room on Saturday. That would throw a grenade under those wet wipe players we have, would be fun to watch.

He was advised for the wrong reasons, $$$$. At his age it should be about development and growth, but he traded that for a big lump of money. If that's what makes him happy then fair enough, but if those are his principles he'll never make it to the level he could.

This is what I fear Rasmus will be saying, but you've got to look at the bigger picture of both of those situations. At Brentford, Dean Smith had just oversaw a great rise for Brentford and they were growing. They had a strong core of players and forward momentum. It was a much easier environment for an upcoming coach to adapt to and grow with, as the club was already on an upwards curve. If we did the same here, you'd have a young 'B' team coach coming into one of our most dysfunctional teams ever. A mish mash of a squad lacking Championship quality in core areas, no forward momentum as we've just finished on 12 points. Eckert may be a good coach in time, but now is not that time and it would be another foolish gamble by the fools who call themselves our owners if this happens.

I think we were looking at the possibility in the summer, but we couldn't shift Aribo and/or Downes. Now Charles is out injured long term there is a huge gap in CM, so we've moved I reckon. Not sure there is anything in this manager wise.