Badger

I share your doubts about the truth in Jans comment;he's just learnt some good management speak/cliches. If Jan did try and sign him however it proves that Jan at least believed the bloke to be up to the standard required at Helmond Sport,and the player was a realistic target for them.Just hope he's up to the CCC level we need. Good luck to the bloke at the start of his Saints career.

3 - 0 to Doncaster.

Yes but for Villa and City these were isolated results ,ours was not. Furthermore the results you use were deemed cup upsets and shocks.Was our defeat at Rotherham really such an upset or shock ?That for me is the difference.

Get that onto CD pretty quick. Proceeds to charity or Save Our Saints...

I recall on the old S4E board at the time of the Wigley experiment,someone coining the phrase "Rupert,the father,Rupert,the son ,and Rupert the holy coach".

Rupert wrote the intro to said book.

Probably cost too much.Unless he'd buy out his own contract. Wonder if Rupert is on speaking terms with his club chairman now.

Problem also is that RL has now publicly nailed his colours to the 'coaching revolution' so to change midstream would be embarrasing.That would never do. Just remember how long he persevered with Wartface after publicly exclaiming him.,yet it was obvious after a few games that he was not up to the job and never would be. Just remember where that got us though...

Not enough people present to sing them soon though.

Zed.End of story. You could approach his teacher with "I say zed,you say zee..lets call the whole thing off.." and move your child to another school.

Agree with every strand of your post. The other issues are having nailed his colours to the "revolutionary coaching",how could RL now abandon it and save face ? If he wanted a change,where on earth would His Rupertship look? Who on earth would be so desperate to take it? (no I don't even think GH would now...) Serious money ?Well,that is really in the land of Jackanory and I don't propose we waste time on that particular fanciful thread...

The rats have already abandoned our sinking ship.

I don't think will be up to the standard we require as long as he has a hole in his arse. Makes me want to weep when I think we missed out on Vokes.

It is not the the bloke in charge who is the problem,its the dickhead who appointed him,and the tossers who have made this necessary... Please lets not start a crusade against Poortvliet there is a whole legion of people more culpable in our downfall than him.

I have to think carefully about not only the money,but time involved in travelling to SMS now. Is it really deserving of two hours each way,on top of the best part of c£40 for young Badger and I to attend ? And if young Badger II comes,its more £,and the rubbish served up could put him off football for life;will either of them be prepared to take me there in my dotage if I inflict this on them now ? Chelt Town by the way have appointed Martin Allen in the last week,so where over the next few months are we most likely to get value for money ,and travelling time ?

Agree about Jan's position,he is the front line fall guy in all this but he comes out of it with honour and his reputation intact as far as I'm concerned. I have also previously asked the question over Wotte's role,and am not convinced.This was the man who Rupert remained in contact with after seemingly overlooking him two years ago.He was then instrumental in introducing JP to the club,But rather than a supervisory or DoF role, he is a reserve coach.It simply does not stack up. Look and listen to JP, he sems an honest-to-goodness bloke;Wotte - as someone who may have Rupert's ear - looks like someone I would not wish to buy a second hand car from.

I am more than prepared to give Jan a chance,and frankly am impressed by him in difficult circumstances beyond his control. Lowe on the other hand,I'm not sure I'd entrust him as custodian of our club anymore than I would Michael Jackson or Woody Allen to babysit my kids.

That tournament will become nothing more than an 'Anti-English love in'. The most satisfying part of that tournament for those involved will be that England are not partaking in it,as if we had been excluded rather than having vetoed it.

Or 'Harry Potter and the Champange Socialists' or 'Harry Potter and the Islington set'.

In terms of ability I'm inclined to agree with you that few if any others come close to them if measured over any length of time at Saints. Dean Richards at his prime with us approached their standards.Ruddock might have,had he stayed at Saints and concentrated on his football rather than live up to his own idea of his image. My all time favourite CB's though would be John McGrath and Jim Steele but in truth Mark Wright and Michael Svennson are a cut above. Shame Wright was an arsehole off the pitch though.

I like Newcastle and KK.Although I feel a bit sorry for them having Ashley and a **** like Wise involved,it amazes me that their supporters are blind to the fact KK has been **** poor since returning.

Sad to say, we'll lose 4-0.

A few years ago driving into Bristol in the morning I used to see some bloke walking along holding a book in front of his nose everytime... With all due respect to The Stain,this looked a knobhead thing to do,and the chap concerned must have been an utter spastic.

Probably absolute crap bands though.....

Surprised no one has mentioned either 'Arthur Two-stroke and the Chart Commandos', or 'The Rhythm Methodists'.