Lord Duckhunter

What he was saying was that if the schemes and affordable, and some are in surplus as was claimed, then the unions finance any short fall or keep any surplus. If they are not going to cost us any more as a portion of GDP in the future, lets get the taxpayer to contribute what they did in the last year of the Labour administration, increase it by inflation each year and then the unions can make up any shortfall. I'm sure we can work out what the taxpayers contribution was in 2009, we should give this amount (plus inflation) to the Brothers, to divi out to their members. If it's affordable, then pensions will stay the same, if not The Brothers can either get their members to work longer ,pay more in, or take it out of their own union funds.

A bloke on Sky news made a great point. If the Public sector pensions are affordable and Osbourne and Cameron are telling porkies (the NUT claim there is a £46.4 billion surplus paid into their fund) then why dont the public sector unions take over the running of their members pensions? For some reason the union henchman in the studio didn't want to answer that point...........

Apart from being a presenter of Top Gear a very very popular TV programme since 1988, which people are forced to watch at gun point. Apart from earning £1.7 million a year from books, DVD's and newspaper articles, which people are forced to buy at gun point. What talent does Clakson have? I'm pretty talentless, where do I sign up for a job like his? It must be pretty easy to earn £2.7mil a year if he can do it, perhaps some of our talented teachers should give it a go. If a nobody like Clarkson can do so well, think how well NUT's finest would get on in the same role.

The end for decent pension provision for Private sector workers can be traced back to March 1998 and Gordon Brown's first budget.He plundered the pensions of hardworking people and was specifically warned against doing so and what the consequences would be. Documents were released on 30th March 2007 under the Freedom of Information Act from Her Majesty's Treasury which show that Internal Treasury forecasts, advised that his changes would "cause a shortfall in existing assets of up to £75 billion" and that "employers would have to contribute about an extra £10 billion a year for the next 10 to 15 years to get pension scheme funding back on track".These papers that were sent to Gordon Brown the Chancellor before he did away with the dividend tax credit and also advised that the worst effected victims would be the poorest members of society. Faced with a £10 billion a year bill for another 10-15 years nearly all companies did away with their defined benefit plans.

I've just been down to Poole,where the bridge was meant to be shut to traffic all day. Saw a couple of clowns........sorry, union members hanging around, and asked them if this was a picket line? "Sort of" was the reply. Asked them why the bridge was open to traffic, when it was meant to be closed. Turns out that they just wanted to disurpt the rush hour traffic this morning, to inconvience people like me, who pay their wages, but had now decided to go back to work and open the bridge. So much for a day of action, and high principles. They seemed to have hit on a new form of industrial action, the "lie in". Where union members have an extra couple of hours in bed, and then go to work. It's a win-win, ****es off the public but they dont lose much pay............

I thought long and hard about whether to support this strike but cant bring myself to do so. After all Ed Milliband, the union placement at the top of the Labour Party calls them "irresponsible" and has refused to support them. If Red Ed (who owes his job to the unions) doesn't support them, why should I, someone who contributes to their wages, do so?

Here's the table at the same stage last year......... http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2010-2011/table/2010-11-28 QPR had 41 points compared to our 42, and were 8 points clear of 3rd which is the same as us. If anybody is not happy with that, they are seriously deluded.

I dont particulary like sticking up for Skates, but there are differences to our situation. SLH and SFC were basically the same, surely even the most one eyed Saints fan will concede that. Their situation is more like West Ham's, and they didn't get a deduction when their parent company went into admin.

It's a bit rich complaining about parents only being concerned about themselves and the disruption to their lives, when the strike is purely about you. Sod the rest of us, who would love the pension that outrages you so much.

Happened to me at the Brighton game. Went down the office and they gave me the 2 I left at home for £10 each, even though my lad’s ticket was only £10 in the first place. I asked them about producing the originals and getting my £20 back, but they said they only did that for Season ticket holders who forget their tickets. At the end of the day, it was my fault I left the tickets at home and my mistake cost me £20.00

That picture makes me laugh everytime. It's like something out of Phoenix Nights. I'm sure The Echo are taking the **** keep printing that particular picture.

About 2 years ago I got a letter in the post telling me from now on my contributions were going up 2% and I would only receive 1/80th of my final salary, rather than 1/60th. They also closed the final salary scheme for new members. No discussion, no negotiation.Just that's it,take it or leave it.But I understood that this was done out of necessity,not out of spite and was done to protect the scheme and the company.I'm amazed at the lack of understanding shown by the unions and some public sector workers regarding the situation we are in as a country. They couldn't care less about the cost to the country and to future taxpayers. This is not a strike about principle, or about poor work conditions, or any moral crusade. It is purely about Public sector workers, who benefitted from the boom, refusing to accept that they will have to contribute to getting us out of the bust. I just hope the Govt have the balls to stand up to the unions, withdraw the last generous offer and then set about changing the law around strike action. Personally, I would like to see 1 day strikes outlawed. They are the cowards way out of protesting, an unpaid day off is no real hardship when you have a job with a steady income. They are just designed to inconvience the very people who are paying their pensions. If you want to go on strike, then fine go on strike, but dont come back in until the dispute is over one way or the other. Let's see how many of the Brothers members will vote for weeks and weeks with no pay coming in.

This is another issue, like The EU, where the politicans of all 3 main parties dont give a flying F what the people want. Along with the establishment, they have decided that immigration is a good thing and that's the end of it. You only have to look at Gordon Brown's response to Gillian Duffy's perfectly reasonable question about it (when he thought the mike was off), to know what our leaders really think. Most live in a bubble, seeing the country as one big Cosmopolitan city.

I'm going for Bernie Madoff,

What's well? Putting more in, or getting more out?

What a load of shiete. I thought for a minute that this was something the school had set my 12 year old to do.I take it we are paying for someone to design this nonsense out of our licence fee? To suggest that all you need to do is put your income, age ,and number of family members, to get a true reflection of your contribution is laughable.

Grant had no choice but to front up. Had there been a privacy law, would he have been quite so up front about it. You may not be interested in this sort of stuff, but thousends of your fellow countrymen are, they have given us the press we have now, because had they followed your lead and not bought the papers until they stop printing this stuff, they would have stopped. I happen to find Coogan, who starred in Fox's Night at the Museum, calling News International a "protection racket" and talking of Rupert Murdoch's toxic legacy,a complete and utter hypercrite. "Your Company is a protection racket, you will leave a toxic legacy,but thanks for the cheque"

What is the % increase for union bosses and council leaders?

If the British public didn't want the sex lives of slease balls like Grant and Coogan splashed across their breakfast tables, they wouldn't buy the papers that did it. I find the whole thing hypocritical, we get the papers that the British public want to buy. The British public set the enviorment by buying these papers, did they really believe that storries were obtained by "good old fashioned journalism".Just for once I would like to hear a politicans tell the voters the simple fact, that had they refused to buy these rags, then this sort of journalism would have gone away. They can't of course, because they've got revenge in mind but also because it's their voters who were doing the buying. Coogan was bleating on about them trying to set up a sting on him. Well a newspaper sting did for the cricketers as well as countless other illigal acts (like cocaine use, Mr Coogan). When Coogan and Grant stop appearing in Fox films, perhaps then I'll start to take them seriously. Until then they are just hypercrites crying because their illigal acts couldn't be hushed up.

I had a ref tell me to **** off once during a Sunday morning game. He also called me a useless ****, when I missed a sitter.It made some of the other players laugh, and also had the knock on effect of me shutting up and letting him get on with reffing the game. More ref's should try it.

Would people take 2 out of 3 wins, with the loss coming at you know where? Combine that with 4 points from Hull and Blackpool and we'd be going into Xmas with 49 points. QPR had 41 last season...........

My opinion is that the only thing that can stop us is an injury to RL. We have options everywhere else, but he gives that that something extra that means we can throw it into the box and he'll bury it or someone will pick up the knock downs. To be able to pass sides to death but also be able to knock it long for him, makes us a real danger going forward. I really would like to see us push the boat out in Jan and bring in a top quality striker that can play alongside him, or replace him if the worst happenend. I am starting to believe, because we've played so well. Another 6 games and we're halfway through the season, and I can't recall any shocking performances. There we're a couple where we weren't at our best, but other than that we have been consistantly good. The play off system means that it's hard for a Leicester or Birmingham to put runs together as most teams will always have something to play for, when we reach the turn of the year. It means we just have to show play off form and we're home and dry.Forget about West Ham, I hope they beat the chasing pack everytime they meet. Second is all we need to be playing in the Premiership next season.

I was in the Chapel and the Ref defo blew the whistle. The ref, who was poor all game cocked up, Either he blew before he should have done (unlikely), or the goal should have stood. To blow the whistle, the taker score, and then pull it back because the keeper was still fannying around is just plain wrong.I think that if he hadn't sent one off, given a dodgey pen earlier, he would just have allowed it. He just thought "oh ****, they're going go crazy over this" and bottled it.

Just a boring 0-0 that suited both teams, nothing more sinister than that. Had there been some sort of prior "arrangement", then 22 players, plus coaches and managers would have had to be in on it. In the past 30+ years one of those 40 odd people involved would have lifted the lid on any "agreement". Brighton's problem was that they let the situation devolop by not gaining enough points from earlier games.

Does that include Skates?