Viking Warrior

I agree with Soton Joe it s not a palatable decision especially as it is tax payers money. "This is yet another example of a decision that I think should be taken by the British courts not ECHR. Yes There are was A 13-month delay between the end of Betteridge's minimum term and his first parole hearing was a breach of his right to a speedy hearing, the European Court of Human Rights found on Tuesday. bu this was caused by a change in legislation which meant there was a massive deluge of applications following the IPP introduction at the time . Ambulance chasing do gooder lawyers jumped on the band wagon re taking up human rights cases for this group of criminals. Betteridge's minimum term expired in December 2008 and no Parole Board review had taken place by the time the tariff expired. A hearing was initially planned for May 2009, then rescheduled for September that year. However, a pre-tariff advisory meeting recommended that his security category was not downgraded as he remained at risk of re-offending. In the meantime, Betteridge brought judicial review proceedings challenging the delays in fixing a Parole Board hearing in his case. A High court judge found in 2009 that that there had been a violation of Article 5(4) of the European Convention on Human Rights - the right to a speedy hearing. The ruling came amid a crisis at the Parole Board following the introduction of IPP (Indeterminate Sentence for Public Protection) sentences, as it was swamped with hundreds of applications for release, leading to a backlog and scores of human rights challenges. The High Court ruled that there was no conceivable claim for damages as the pre-tariff hearing had made it clear that there was no chance of Betteridge being released. The Parole Board hearing fixed for September 2009 was postponed to January 13 2010, at which it was recommended that Betteridge should be moved to open prison conditions. In ruling that Betteridge's human rights had been breached, the European court attacked the way in which the government handled the introduction of IPP sentences. It said: "Furthermore, the fact remained that the delay in reviewing Mr Betteridge's case was the direct result of the failure of the authorities to anticipate the demand which would be placed on the prison system following the introduction of IPP sentencing and that it was for the state to organise its judicial system in such a way as to enable its courts to comply with the requirement under the convention of a speedy hearing to review the lawfulness of detention." IPPs, introduced under the 2003 Criminal Justice Act, are aimed at persons who commit offences of a violent or sexual nature and are deemed to be dangerous to the public. Convicted offenders remain in custody until considered safe to be released

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View I am aware the ECHR ruling was nothing to do with his crime . But they still found in his favour because the labour govt didn't do their job right . It still doesn't make it right . He had no respect for the girl . So why should he get any respect

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View from the top I accept the reasoning re parole . But this guy raped a 14 year old . I wonder what other sexual crimes he committed, I find it hard to fathom that he gets compensation while a 14 year old has had her life destroyed by this evil uncaring arseole . Surely if you want human rights to apply to you then respect the rights of others . He didn't when he raped the lass. Beside why should my taxes go to rewarding a rapist whose parole request took 13 months to be heard . The guy should be castrated

As I said Badger, I want to read the ECHR decison on this to understand the ruling but to me it seems perverse that this animal raped a 14 year old. he had no respect for the girls human rights when he raped her, In the eyes of the law she is a child. Its not about being selective its about looking at what happened to the visctim , in my humble opinion

The government has been ordered to pay damages to a convicted rapist because of delays to a review about whether he should be released. Samuel Betteridge, from Mablethorpe in Lincs, should be compensated for a 13-month wait for a parole hearing, the European Court of Human Rights ruled. Betteridge, 58, was jailed in 2005 for raping a 14-year-old girl. He was awarded 750 euros plus 2,000 euros in costs, after the court decided his rights had been breached. This is another perverse decision by the ECHR. This betteridge animal lost his rights the moment he raped a 14 year girl I will read the whole case notes but it is cases like this that show how crass the echr rulings can be.

Which landmark is a prehistoric monument which still stands in the English county of Wiltshire? This could also refer to the amesbury or fibbury rings. The key to the questions, is do people taking the test know where wiltshire is

10 out of 10 . They shouldn't use multi choice answers . Why not just give them the answer. .and save on ink

Saint Garret The have put it on line. heres the link to the Official site http://sfcne.ws/TGHFIv

I see both Rodgers and saggychops are blaming their fringe and young players for letting their clubs down loosing to Oldham etc Sorry why do managers have a go at the team. It was the manager who picked the team if they wanted to win the game they should have picked their strongest team not berating the players they selected As for Chelski. Given Brentford almost beat them , Do you think if we played brentford they would have inflicted a much heavier defeat on us than chelski 6-1 or was that just a blip in our season?

Sorry Matt. as much as your one of my all time favourites , second only to Brian O'neil, Please do not use the media to fight your corner. You know you will be misquoted and used by people . Look at the pinnacle bid. keep your own counsel get in touch with NC arrange a meeting, Yes take someone with you but you dont need loads of witnesses and season tickets present. Do it professionally. All the stuff the media are sating is having a negative impact on the common saints fan like me. Yes there are those who will jump on your side of the fence, but they will use you as the have had a grudge against the club for several years Oh and re The Reading Manager, Shut the Eff up this has nothing to do with you re Nigel. I should watch your own back your days are numbered especially if you get relegated

Ain't forever I was referring to Frannys carpet.

Ain't forever . I hope your friends employment is safe at the club . Bragging the way you have said in your post . I now know which side of the carpet your stood on . Are you a taxi driver by any chance ?

Scott's do they still process 35m film . I have one of my late dad to have developed

Those that go to NC's fans dinners are very positive of the man .itsonly these that go on hearsay . That they form an opinion that he is not very nice . Having said that . You know my thoughts on alpine . I have never met him . Maybe we would become good mates if I did meet with him for over a few pints . Who would know

You a defence lawyer by any chance trousers ?

Jim was a regular in the old supporters club at the dell after he retired

I agree fringes, avenue

Mouldycoat have you ever spent time with NC ? How can you say he is not a nice person or are you just basing your assumptions on the anti nc masses ?

He's 6.5 balls of steal . Jim you cannot turn up and expect to get into the supporters club . There's a membership fee . I was a member for many years at the dell and once it became unviable in the end due to the cost of airfares . I asked to go in on one occasion and they said I couldn't go in as my membership had lapsed . So it's not only ex players that get refused . Sorry Jim you have been used by the echo . Just coincidence the echo should publish your story on the weekend mp and nc give interviews . No just the friggin echo stirring the ****

Spot on saintbletch with your timing . I think a lot of the interview has been cut . I know Matt works for sky . But really did sky have to continue with the debate stating Matt response about him and ex players such as Benali . Just proves nc point on negativity .

On the mp article . Interesting comment about players nut understanding some of Nigel's substitutions . I seemed to recall many if you made the same comments on match threads

I haven't watched he interview yet . But one thing I'm sure of is that NC could have said every thing the fans on here wanted to hear . Yet there would be a few on here who have their own agenda against nc for whatever reason . And so it has been proven . I for one am grateful for what he has done and is doing for the club . It is a club for the supporters as intimated in both interviews . The issue with MLT and nc should be resolved away from the cameras . In public is not sensible Matt . You know you will have fans supporting your cause as you are a saint icon . Unfortunately in these situations the bad guy becomes totally vilified even when they may well be the good guy . Anyway did nc or mp mention anything about transfers ?

Does stu of Romsey post on here .?