John B

A week ago, Brexit became reality – and it’s as bad as we all feared, with barriers to trade and a loss of rights. One week into 2021, here’s how those sunlit uplands are looking: Businesses hit with red tape, delays and costs: New customs declarations have put up barriers to trade, as a consequence of which many UK companies ceased trading with the EU this week, hauliers have been turned back at ports, the cost of sending packages to the EU has shot up and EU companies have stopped delivering to UK customers. €6bn has already left the City, with worse to come: Six billion euros of EU share trading left the City this week and is lost for good, while the loss of passporting rights on January 1 and failure to agree a deal on equivalence has put £26 billion of financial services exports at risk. Travel to EU will be more hassle: From January 1, for anyone travelling to the EU, there will be more costs, paperwork, delays and limits, including a reduction in free healthcare and the return of roaming charges. You will also need more paperwork to bring a pet – even to take it to Northern Ireland. Brexit means borders within Britain.

I know you do not believe it but there were major advantages to be in EU and SM/CU that is why there are 27 Full members an other associates ones and that is why I have been trying to explain that leaving the UK is going to be awful for the UK with no tangible benefits I have no idea of your background but you dont seem to be very well informed on how the EU works and that WTO rules are worse than our current new treaty I used to work for a French IT company and realised how FOM SM/CU was so good for trade one benefit was we could ship hardware direct from the Factory in the Loire Valley direct to our UK customers without hardly any paper work . It is not so called bureaucracy it is real I have sold some football books to someone in Liverpool it took me some time to get the documentation sorted out.

Yes I agree Moyes made five changes they have a bigger squad of decent players than us the CB who was outstanding was playing his first game of the season in the PL I believe

Yes I agree Stephens played quite well as Vestergaard has all season but they all make mistakes if they did not they would be playing for the top teams Vestergaard gifted the ball to Kevin De Bruyne and Man City scored against us recently

Did you not think that West Ham were good defensively and deserved a point

And in a massive twist of fate, Brexiters have ended up coming to the rescue of the German carmakers by guaranteeing them tariff free sales in the UK! (While at the same time blocking the free movement of our services across the EU!)

Perhaps most poignantly, and even most importantly, dishonesty won. That in itself is a bad thing surely

Johnson says the deal ‘has delivered everything from the ‘2016 Brexit campaign’ So when will the NHS start getting its £350m a week? Today is Brexit’s highwater mark. In a few days time it becomes reality not unicornology. The damage will become clearer and clearer.

A deal that means: -Trade more difficult -More rules, red tape, cost -End Freedom of Movement -Nothing on services - 80% of economy -Data uncertain -And travel, insurance, pets problems And that’s good? Really

The deal is reportedly done. The first time in history that two parties have negotiated a deal that is inferior to the one they already had and other new deals especially the Japanese one is not as good as our current one Only fools will think it is going to be a great success

Perhaps the most amazing thing about Brexit four and a half years after the vote, is that no clear benefits have emerged, but the majority of people who voted for it are still willing to go along with it. Clearly, these people are suffering from abject denial.

As I said just wear a mask and stop talking shit

As the Chinese would say wear a mask and stop talking shit

We've just spent 5 years at war with each other, devalued the £ by 20%, savaged our economy, quit the world's largest free trade zone, created a mountain of red tape & flushed £200bn down the drain to 'control our borders'. 6 EU states just did it in 24 hours with a press release

Good performance but without really top class players we can not compete consistently with the Big City Clubs as our defeats against Spurs Man U Man City show

I am unable to move to a EU country because I do not have Freedom of movement and all the other advantages of the EU which were promised before the Referendum All I get now is angry people like you being rude and sometimes aggressive more expensive food and holidays not able to have a few beers with friends because of Boris' dreadful handling of Covid He would never have been elected if there had been no Brexit Its a good job the Saints are doing so well but that said they were doing well in 1973 when Channon missed a penalty against Arsenal and we got relegated later that season despite buying Osgood

How, right now, can you support the Conservatives when they're doing their best to destroy the country, the Union, its international relationships, its security, economy and the wellbeing of the people within it? What is the appeal in this failure and fish ? We started with a superb deal - full membership + opt-outs, rebate, veto. He promised he could EASILY IMPROVE it. He gambled our prosperity on a bluff on which you fully supported Boris Johnson won’t escape blame for Brexit forever

Does not make any sense “A patriot can criticise his country, stay with it, and goes through the democratic process. A nationalist needs enemies.” Seems to sum you up to a tee

Yes one of Maggie Thatcher's successes But the EU was the greatest and most successful Socialist movement ever created. It protected us all - in terms of what we ate, our basic human rights, our health, how we were treated in the office and our environment.

European yes British yes, English yes, Hampshire born yes, Sotonian yes, Old Simmarian yes, Leaver never.

The current shit show We are about to obliterate our trading model, make enemies of our neighbours become an isolated laughing stock, make our country weaker, more vulnerable & massively poorer because on one single day, almost 5 years ago, with a difference of just 3.8% people voted for proven lies.

I understand the desire to paint the EU as the bad guys. But the reality is we want to access their markets, whilst simultaneously retaining the "sovereign" right to undercut them. They're obviously not going to accept that. So what are we all doing here.

It astonishes me that there are still people who support Brexit, I understood how people were fooled into initially supporting it but now we have had four years in which the truth has emerged. Why do they still refuse to see the reality ?

Brexit has always been founded on a lie. The UK never could enjoy benefits of being in the EU + the supposed benefits of autonomy outside. Access to EU markets means following EU rules and an arbitration system. On this the EU can’t concede. Neither can Johnson. Lies never end well

The long & short of it: Brexiters want the advantages of EU membership without the responsibilities or costs, able to compete unfairly & without sanction against the EU economies, allowing its rich to pay no or little tax, able to pollute the environment & treat employees badly.