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Chinny's table and Gaydy's table - obvious innit

Not necessarily our 'best' player, but definitely the one we most need to be playing.

I think the charge is over the club & therefore it's assets, not Fratton Park specifically. Certainly, Birch seemed to be saying that if Poopey get liquidated Chinny will still get first call on the money, but only what he can raise. Which is very different to him getting a guaranteed £17 mill. (Though, I suppose he could buy Nottarf Krap from the liquidator, but there wouldn't be much point then because his charge would no longer apply. Liquidation is his worst nightmare, if not ours.)

What would be the point? His problem is that the 'asset' is now worth about a tenth of what he valued it at when he acquired it. Pompey as a Prem club might have got him the cash back, even in the Champ, if they could have sold it, he'd have got something. But Poopey as a going concern are less than valueless and if it comes to liquidation the ground is likely to be sold to the council - the only one who might even want to buy it - for maybe £2million & that is all he gets because that is all it's worth. He took a gamble to get his money from Gaydy senior & it has failed.

I am by no means Guly's biggest fan & I thought he was poor on Tuesday, but he did well today. He was clearly not meant to be playing wide right, but he worked hard, did some good things and followed his manager's instructions. He always looks a bit laconic and casual, but he didn't give the ball away much and he did some good covering work too. efinitely put a shift in today as far as I'm concerned.

According to Birch, Chainrai does not get the stadium if they get liquidated - that was why he was desperate not to let it happen. He has a charge over it, but Birch said that the liquidator sells it for what he can get and the money goes to Chainrai. A very different scenario. I've always agreed with Ho on one point - I don't believe Chinny ever put £17 million into Poopey. He was owed that sum by Gaydy senior, and an Israeli court upheld it, but as he'd done a runner and had all his cash frozen, and I reckon he gave him Poopey as payment for that debt. That was why Chinny put a charge on it - because he reckoned he could then sell it on & get his cash out. But the fall from the prem & the spectacular failure of quality over quantity has scuppered his chances. He is right when he said he was always a reluctant owner - he just wanted to cash his chips in, but it hasn't worked out that way. Two other unrelated thoughts - one, to be fair to Voldy, he didn't say the refs were unfair to Poopey, only that his players had to assume they'd get nothing from them & not use bad decisions as an excuse. Also, it looks like four of their 'quality' squad are going to top-eight clubs on loan - it really reinforces how pitifully they have underperformed in the last two seasons.

The Football League were never going to let a Championship side go the wall - it's as much their showcase as the Prem is the FA's. If they stay up this season, particularly now they appear to have funds to avoid loaning out any more of their better players, they will truly have got away with it. But get to the close season, if they are relegated, it looks a whole different scenario. Also, however forgiving the FL are, there must surely be sanctions for failing to keep to their original CVA. Surely effectively cancelling because of another insolvency event then bringing out a new one paying even less must carry some penalty. Some time around this thread's 3rd birthday - just before the fixtures come out - would be my date for the moment of truth.

Every time you see an image of Nottarf Krap it looks a sh1thole - even in the News. I did wonder if people were taking deliberately unflattering photos to highlight their predicament.... Then I realised that they were probably the most flattering photos they could find so as not to discourage potential buyers.

52 Brought up in Salisbury, now on the dark side (well, Chichester). First game, in that funny little corner of the Archers, September 1970 v Derby County 4-0 to the Saints, Davies 2, Channon 2. Both my father and I were hooked from then on (& later my mother, too) & now my son is, as well, & finally seeing some good times in his young life. May 1st 1976 still my best memory, but the last three seasons have been as much fun as any time I've had supporting Saints.

Basically, if you enter admin & get relegated from the Champ to League One, you drop straight to League Two. If you finish above the bottom three you only drop to League One. If you get promoted, you stay in the Champ - ie, whatever your final position you automatically drop a league accordingly. Simples.

Drat. Out-pedanted again.

Colwyn Bay & Mertyhyr Tydfil apparently still play in the English Leagues. I love being a pedant. Also, Aberdare Athletic were briefly (early 1920's) in the Football League.

To be fair, more in a flat-bed Transit towing a caravan.....

Welcome aboard. Like Nigel's bus, there is room for everyone on here.

I have this 'land of the living dead' image of simple web-fingered folk repeatedly pushing against a closed ticket-office window, unblinking and stupid, whilst ten feet away the queue of two are happily purchasing their tickets at an open window.

We may have the edge on literature on this site, but Reading have the edge on musical imagination

Thanks for that - it worked well for the second time

My lad & I went to watch Crawley v Torquay this afternoon and discovered Lloydy was playing right-back for Crawley. (A month's loan apparently.) He did okay - the only player on the pitch able to bring the ball down & pass it, and he put in some decent crosses - but ultimately still too lightweight, not involved enough and not fast enough. We both had a soft spot for him when he was at SMS, but I fear this is his level, and another reminder of how far we have come in the last three years. Still, I wish him all the best. Incidentally, it was a terrible long-ball game on a badly cut up pitch. These days the gulf between L1 & L2 is miles wider than Championship to L1. (I've also been to Aldershot a couple of times in the last two years - some latent masochism, I think.) Still, West Sussex finally has a Football League club, though my son says he's never going back to watch that cr@p again!

I've been trying to work out where their catchment area is to get to 8 million - you just about get there including all of the counties below -but in my experience, east of Emsworth, north of Havant and west of Gosport, the number of Skates per 100 head of population drops below recordable levels. (Perhaps it was some calculation based on the 200k that turned out on Southsea common that day....) Hampshire 1,743,700 West Sussex 799,800 Dorset 714,900 Isle of Wight 140,500 Surrey 1,127,300 Berkshire 865,100 East Sussex 774,400 Wiltshire 661,600

We don't bl00dy well want them! How about the IoW, or France. Or Iran.

I think this might be the funniest story of the whole saga - http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/fans_bid_to_pack_the_park_raises_2_000_1_3575003 First line - A STAGGERING £2,000 was raised in just 36 hours thanks to a fans-backed initiative to bring supporters flocking to Fratton Park. Or, in the real world, a whole 100 of the 250000 bestest fans in the world have chipped in to their scheme to buy tickets for a Pal. And they are on target for 13000 v Boro. Actually, it's more tragic than funny..... but you gotta laugh

Apparently their brightest young starlet is off to Liverpool & they can't replace him as he is not considered to be a first-teamer. Doh! If only they'd put him on the bench a couple of times instead of leaving it empty they could have another of WBA's reserve team on the way in. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/starlet_set_to_go_from_blues_to_reds_this_week_1_3569960

Honest m'lud, we thought if we spent everything on a quality over quantity gamble on getting back to the Prem it would be tax-free.....

Not hard to see why they are up the creek, is it? http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/appy_viking_sacrifice_could_save_blues_1_3556054 relevant bit - Birmingham will pay an additional fee for his services if they win promotion, with Pompey getting his £15,000-a-week wages off their bill. For an unknown, untested player from the Norwegian lkeague ffs!!

That was a very interesting read. Only someone from a sister-molesting inbred island in a swamp could draw anything other than positive conclusions from what was written about us.........