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On the BBC they have 21 - Goalkeepers 1 Ashdown 13 Henderson Defenders 2 Ward 3 Rocha 5 Pearce 15 Halford 26 Ben-Haim Midfielders 4 Mokoena 7 Lawrence 8 Mullins 10 Huseklepp 19 Norris 20 Thorne Forwards 9 Futacs 11 Varney 14 Etuhu 18 Kitson 25 Mwaruwar 27 Kanu 40 Bogard Additional Players 31 Webster I saw the name Bogard & wondered for one moment if it was Winston Bogarde of seeing out 3 years of contract in the reserves at Chelsea fame. I thought perhaps Storrie & Arry had signed him from Chelsea and forgotten they owned him & just let him see out a six year contract in the garden, but sadly he is Daniel Bogard, 20 year old English forward. Anyway they have their twenty - Lampitt may have gone but 'Quality over quantity' lives on.

I think the FL's response explains why Skates never wanted to give any of their youngsters a go under Uncle Avram or old Clottermouth - because once they have played they are deemed 1st team - and why it is always 'Same old Skates, always cheating'. Appy has been converted in some strange 'Stepford Manager' scenario, where a decent young manager arrives and in no time has been corrupted into another cheating, whining dirtball. Their cynicism is unbelievable. Just wait, 12 or 13 players on Saturday, then miraculously next week a couple of Prem youngsters or mysteriously 'out of contract' players (think Rocha & Owusu-Abeye) are suddenly signed up in the interests of fairplay. Why does no-one else seem to see it?

You may be right - a bit of 'You don't rock the boat over who gets to be Admin & we won't do likewise over your boss's debenture'.

No one from Skatesville - words in there that they just don't comprehend

Now what would be funny is if Handy Andy gets PKF taken off the case, only for the judge to decide to have them replaced with HMRC's old friends at Baker Tilly.

Just looking at the team Coventry put out - at least 4 teenagers with about 40 games between them & upfront instead of Jutkewicz, Clive Platt who is 35 and has spent most of ihs career in League One & Two. I'm amazed they're not making more of a fuss.

One comment on Solent that gives you a little insight into his genius was about Fox. He said his ability with the dead ball was a major reason for signing him, and if someone can deliver consistently other players can plan/time their runs knowing where the ball is going. A little and obvious thing but very important.

Very happy tonight. I know Derby were mediocre - like so many teams, neat & tidy, but limited - but we were awesome. When the machine works it is unstoppable - and beautiful to watch. Everyone did well & we just looked better than them alround.

It does seem to me that the phew somehow think they are free of Chainrai, but they are far from it. His and Gaydamak's tentacles are still wrapped right around the club; the only difference now is that he no longer has a vested interest in keeping it going, if he can't control the next high-interest earning money-launderer/joker to buy into the club. He can make Mr Birch's job even more difficult than it already is. Conclusion - the fun continues.

Legally he does, but the club have to pay off any 'football' debt in full, so as to continue in the Football League.

We've done our bit, but suspect we are not alone in believing this.

Maybe that's why a few of them are suddenly 'injured'.

What I can't understand is why the News keeps printing these losers' fantasies. Still, as we say, Poopey - the gift that keeps on giving.

One point the simple island/swamp dwellers overlook is that without CSI's criminally acquired money they would have folded last year and nobody who could have passed anything more rigourous than the toothless FPPT would have touched the cesspit with a sh1tty stick. The reality is that they are living on borrowed time and it's almost payback time.

You are really something else. Just because some of the youngsters played a lot doesn't mean they are not young. I'll give you Surman because he was established in the team - but at the start of the season Schneiderlin (19years) had played 4 senior games before he joined us, Lallana (20) had 6 CCC games over 2 years, McGoldrick (21) had 21 games in CCC, nearly all as sub, & Cork (19) 34 CCC games in a relegated Scunny team. The fact that they played a lot (& with the exception of McGoaldrought) gone on to be top players is not the point. They played a lot of games as young, untried tyros. Don't rewrite history.

Lampitt was talking on Solent/South Today. He said admin not confirmed till Friday meeting, but they have applied for it.

Welcome aboard. I've noticed a lot of new names on here on recent weeks & a bit of fresh blood is what we need. We may come to look upon you as the Billy Sharp of the thread if you play your cards right.

If any one is interested I was at the match and there were 14 players used by Saints and everyone of them did well. Including Guly, and I am not on of his greatest fans. I thought Sharp looked just that and really is the missing link. Lambert was outstanding again. His control, his ability to find space and to bring others into play, his sheer presence is just so crucial to us. He is the one irreplaceable player in our team. But they all played well today against a decent, if limited, Burnley team. (Just two little questi0ns - why did we yet again have all the possession, shots & corners yet concede double the number of free-kicks that Burnley did. Are we dirtier than I imagine us to be or are the refs a bunch of ******s? Also, how come Brizzle played like the best team in the division twice against us but have lost virtually every other game they have played?)

Also, of course we were in League One at the time, all those above us (& the Skates) were in the Championship.

Mark Jacobs - I wonder what stone he has crawled back under. I do feel that the legend that is Tal Ben Haim merits a chapter on his own, too.

To be honest I don't care if they keep the ground for the new AFC Poopey - it's not much above Conference standard anyway.

As I understand it HMRC are just another unsecured creditor. Chinny is top of the list. In fact legally the only name on the list. If the club wants to continue, football debt is on that list, too. If not, in the event of liquidation, everyone else fights for the scraps after he's had his share (including those owed from the CVA).

The point is that the footballers are not, legally speaking, secured creditors. As long as a club wants to retain its 'golden share,' football related debt is treated as preferential to even secured debt, but if a club ceases to exist they just join the queue of unsecured creditors. Chinny, on the other hand, has his charge over CSI/Poopey so he gets first dibs on everything.

The only thing with the players is that if they are liquidated and there is no money (especially after Chinny gets first dibs on what little there is) the football creditors rule is worthless. They could be out of a job and no likelihood of seeing the rest of their contract. I'm not sure Ward/Henderson fully grasped that when Ipswich offered them a way out. Probably less serious for them as tey are young & employable. People like Ben Haim & Kitson who are both pants & on huge salaries could be the biggest losers. But it won't come to that. It still seems to me that Chinny holds all the cards, even though he is probably peeved that Handy Andy hasn't come through for him yet. I still expect Chinny to reappear & a miraculous new buyer will appear, (one of chancer/fantasist/launderer delete as applicable) taking the costs off of him on some convoluted HP arrangement at a hideous interest rate for another year. Eventually, with a bit of PP thrown in, he will end up making a profit on it unless the FL step in to stop the farce. But given the Prime Minister himself is on their side, I doubt anyone at FL headquarters will have the cojones to take that step. The longer it goes on the more misery they will endure (unless they get lucky and win the play-offs, though I cannot believe the FL won't take at least enough points off of them to stop that scenario) & an increasing number of the phew are reaching the point that a mercy killing & a phoenix club is the only way to escape Chinny's grip.