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so the poor league and the bestest fans were cruelly conned by Vlad's handwritten bank guarantees on the back of an envelope?? Well no other f0cker was fooled by him. I expect even Ho's ITK mate (belated happy bday by the way) that he sees socially every few weeks even sussed him out fairly quick, even the idiot boy son-of-the-kitman must have seen through him. It took ten seconds on Google, let alone a chat with the FSA and the FBI. No excuse there, next! With all the criminality and lies that still surround the club it's not even been an issue that the current team and the first half of the season were funded by money stolen from pensioners and 'cleaned' for organised crime - any normal club would be horrified at that link, but that's small fry in their list of crimes, doesn't even warrant a mention. The season only hit trouble when the filthy cash dried up. Lampitt denying any involvement in the current crisis? He's got the business acumen of Peter Storrie on LSD, and he'll be living in Rosie's holiday kennel pretty soon. The bonkers Q over Q approach David - does it ring a bell? Do you remember the pay way too much for players no one else wants and cross your fingers for a frickin miracle approach?....idiot. The current crisis is clearly self-inflicted. Inviting criminals into the boardroom, playing fantasy football with real money that belongs to other people and moaning like Tiny Tears when it all goes wrong? It's b0llox. We can be repetitive on here and go round in circles sometimes but the lies currently eminating from the east as a smokescreen are ridiculous. Saints owe big money to the taxman, nazi tank drivers, 13,000 free tickets at SMS -YAWN, YAWN, YAWN. As for Ho's trolling on squad numbers, I can understand if the success of your work involves you having to think like an eight year old, but leave that persona at work or people will think you are a little bit special. Let's cut the cr4p. They are in a hole because of their own mismanagement. Not because a criminal turned out to be a criminal, or any of that other stuff designed to confuse matters. The charge - Overspending in an attempt to gain a sporting advantage. GUILTY, take them down. Next case.....

this forming of a new club incorporating old and new names and history should be the way forward. I for one would fully respect new local rivals Havant and Portalooville. Had to chuckle at the irony and honesty of Ridsdale on the radio just now asking how on earth Rangers could be allowed to spend big fees on players when they hadn't paid their tax bill. Yeah, welcome to our world Peter, you have finally caught up.

I recall being miffed that we only generated 27K for our big call to action, but 14K tonight is poor. The south coast attendance debate is definitely over. Yes there are reasons to stay away, but if you keep peddling the fantasy about the bestest and magnificent support etc but can't back it up, then people will laugh when it doesn't happen. They need to accept that all fans care about their clubs equally, yes the few are special, but not in a good way. So let's hear no more of the media myth about how great they are, because they are clearly not. As for the greedy trio who refused to leave, they certainly showed Ipswich didn't they! Lots of talk, not a lot of walk - time to strengthen, bring in some emergency loans on £15K a week. Cue more boring cliched media stories about 'battling pompey', 'Appleton's troops', 'Fortress Fratton', 'the magnificent fans keeping the spirit alive'. But we know the truth. Just get Plan B up and running and leave all the PR spin and sh1t behind.

funny looking back at this thread seven months ago - there has been little change - other than Ho's attitude and behaviour which has improved dramatically. I'm not sure whether I prefer deluded and often wrong but politely trolling AFC Ho 2012, or seriously deluded, very wrong, AWOL for months, abusive, trolling, anonymous, unlikable Ho FC......like the Plan B club, I guess time will tell. We'll be nice and patronisingly supportive to Plan B in the first years, wishing them well, post-criminality, then before you know it they'll be in the lower reaches of the football league, dreaming of glory, shafting creditors, ripping off charities, and giving it large like nothing has happened. I see an honesty in some of the few but not many - Humble pie - they need to have a slice each. Less of the arrogant claims about riches, and shafting local businesses to finance millionaire journeymen, a bit more of an admission about the shame associated with the badge would generate more sympathy. And that's another thing I don't get. If you want to drive the criminal out of your club, stop giving him money. Partially-packing the park just gives him more. Turning your back on the game is another odd thing - staying outside for 15mins shows the owner of your buying power, its a threat - but copying something Man City copied from someone else, for a different reason, is nonsense. As for those plucky brave battling players, they are raping the club of every last penny - why should they get support? Did any of the millionaires pay the office staff? Imagine if you earned £100,000 a month and a colleague earned £600. Wouldn't it be nice to help him out when wages were delayed, as I believe happened last time? That great pompey spirit doesn't extend to the dressing room, yet tonight they will be heroes. Before driving back to their London homes with cash swilling about in the boot of the Lexus. It's all looks way too late and a bit misguided down east at the mo.

Lampitt said last night that they were 'close to breaking even' last year. He didn't mention that the good housekeeping involved £10.8M of external funding and they hadn't paid Ben Haim's wages nor prepared for the CVA. I was pleased to hear on Solent that he sounds like a bloke who would overspend again tomorrow if allowed - he comes across as suicidally ambitious with other people's cash. So someone needs approx £50M to buy the club - how's the 12th man fundraising going? Couple more car boot sales to go methinks. And another £100M to build a ground and infrastructure. For the same money you could buy THREE Premier League clubs. And AA has sown the seeds of a £10.8M debt that he can attempt to utilise for his client to buy wiggle room in a CVA vote. It'll be interesting to see whether the court allows them to protect themselves - they'd better have some new answers on the blatant insolvency this time. The court should have a VERY good look at their projections for the next six months. I still see the court being fooled by AA's claims of deals in 48 hours and yachts in the harbour, billionaires walking out of Southampton Airport etc. Let's not forget how dim the last judge was. And the media need to start telling people exactly how much of the previous debt they have paid off.

if they are allowed the protection of administration again I think it's really important that the rest of football is educated about the facts. People need to know that they haven't paid a single penny from the last administration. Most fans think it was all paid off and they've just been a bit unlucky - even many of the few don't get that. Tis our job to tell the world! And good spot and reminder by Hatch and Gemmel re the precise wording of the CVA amd league one - need to keep an eye on that one, it could be AA's ace up his sleeve. Let's face it we established a long time ago that the creditors are mainly idiots who voted for a shafting so it's difficult to have sympathy. Its the small businesses, charities and office staff who deserve assistance. So let's Pack the Park to buy Halford or Ben Haim a new hot tub to go in a Hummer. And as horny coaching genius Avram would have said they will never take our spirit, but they do have the legal right to cut off our utilities!

the advance is £2.5M!! That's like rolling up on 9/11 with a dustpan and brush. That is someone saying 'we'll help you, but not a lot'.

while the clock is indeed ticking I expect to see some botched dog's dinner of a delay, someone will plug the life support back in via a small coin meter. AA is not stupid, he MUST have a plan, pretty soon he'll show his hand. So I'm pretty certain they will NOT be liquidated next week, despite the state of the business. Time will be bought, though it will never be paid for. No one is prepared to bang the final nail in, creditors are standing about looking at each other. I expect them to stumble on, penniless and insolvent......Unless of course the police or others suddenly announce that they are not prepared to continue working for nothing and the Ipswich game is postponed. That would be a major indicator that the fat ladies have ridden the four horses of the apocalypse up the Eastern Road and are clippety-clopping through the industrial estate doing vocal warm-ups while looking for a microphone.

couple of little gems from Claridge last night. I was expecting the usual hype but in his defence he was the king of understatement with, 'they have a good budget down there' followed by, the players are fine waiting a couple of weeks for their wages so it shouldn't bother them. And he's right - office girl can be evicted from her flat or lose her car and the club doesn't give a sh!t - but players are guaranteed their money whatever happens and would be better off with the club folding, so they are laughing all the way to the liquidation hearing. Still don't understand the few's little protest - was it ironic, turning their back on the club?...odd. I can see them dodging this bullet from the taxman.............but Baker Tilley are just loading the aircraft - the CVA Exocet will be incoming shortly. That's the one with the potential to do real damage.

any protest that needs explaining has failed. I don't know what they're up to, it's about six years too late to start moaning about things that should've been highlighted then. It was amusing to hear the inarticulate former skate player on Solent (kelly?) dramatically tell the listeners that the atmosphere at Blackpool was..... 'unbelievable'. Is that 'unbelievable' as in the Argentina v Brazil in a World Cup semi-final penalty shootout in front of 80,000 type of arrangement, or the 'unbelievable' in the small away following of drunk inbreds singing a song in a half empty stadium on a freezing afternoon sort of way? More hype! Just more plucky bestest hype to file with the rest of the Portsea pub myths - MPs prodding the taxman in the face and showing him who is boss, the PM stepping in to the rescue!....yes, 1,200 people turned their back for no apparent reason, to demonstrate their message to the TV viewers... And that message was what exactly? Help? Oh the passion, the battling spirit - the fans that never gave up (other than the other 248,800) - they might not have any money but they sure do know how to spin a tale. If hype was cash the taxman would be bathing with AA in caviar tonight and drinking a toast to David Lord Lucan Lampitt. Please can we give Avram a microphone again, please, that was a highlight for me....you can never take our spirit announced the prossie-bothering, serial relegation expert, Hammer Films' grave digger, but you can have three points anytime you fancy, form an orderly queue. Let's cut through the spin and the hype that surrounds this murky business. Cash - on the table now. that's the only real answer.

Lambert's touch justified the admission money on its own! And with Sam's silky-skilled playmakers up next it was nice to see Jos (and Jose) win EVERY aerial ball into the box today. We are in a good place. Let's stay there.

its this sort of twaddle that invites mockery - Blues boss Michael Appleton has issued the rallying cry to his troops ahead of the televised tea-time trip to Bloomfield Road It's all the cliched 'fortress fratton' and all the 'battling' b8llox - they should just write, 'pompey hope to maintain mid-table mediocrity with their final ever boring away trip in front of a handful of deluded simpletons who still don't understand that all of their money is being stolen by crap players'. The other day it was Liam Lawrence referring to a bruising encounter at Birmingham, boldly announcing that they wouldn't be beaten by the bullies. That's all fine and dandy Liam me old mate - BUT YOU WERE! It was them 1, you 0 - you got beaten by the bullies you t1t! Footballers need to keep their mouths shut, everytime they open them rubbish spills out. I do miss Cotterill, Appleton is way too sensible for them - most of the time.

as the net closes I still can't see why Chanrai would finance administration - there isn't enough parachute money to make it worth it. He would need the lot forwarded. I'm not even sure that administration is still a viable option, but they seem to be taking it for granted. And once again there are very few journalists with any sort of understanding of the legal situation, so expect more inaccurate reporting. So what is the official stance on a 2nd administration and points penalties? I thought there was a standard -15 or similar, but is that actually written in to the rules? The problem we are heading for here is that a -10 won't bother them a jot. It will be no punishment at all for the sporting advantage they have helped themselves to, the unpaid squad is good enough to keep them up. The real crunch might come when the CVA payment is missed, there will be no place to hide then - surely?... I'd like to see some players loaned out to sort the wagebill and a significant penalty imposed - then I might accept that they have been punished. Giving -9 to the worst Prem team in recent times was ironically pointless, we still await justice. As for money Penny - how about doing your job rather than playing about with one of your hobbies. She's spending most of her week begging for the likes of Ben Haim to be looked after - misguided, and against the feelings of most voters...

I'd only call the AA if the wheels had come off or I'd had a serious breakdown....as long as the mechanic they send isn't Avram we'll be fine. He'll want to slide underneath and check the levels - ding dong. Does Lampitt have nervous breakdown cover? Or has he turned into Lord Lucan? David Lampitt, lost in action, or maybe he desserted - which would be a trifle unfortunate.

Gemmel, re the list of participants - there are a few more supporting roles - Don't forget the manky crack addict that let Avram f"ck her behind a skip, or the kids from the charity who got to go out on the pitch and then got mugged by Storrie as soon as the photographer had gone. Or the kitman's son, he's proved to be proper ITK. And Ben Haim should get a special mention for doing more damage to the business than David Nugent in taking wages under false pretences - and of course Niemi, he took a load of cash out just for sitting on his ar$e. A cast of thousands....though it's more about quantity than quality. Did we mention the mush who asked Storrie if he was having a larf?... But back to today, Chanrai won't be happy about parachute payments going to players, that's his money. And they'll need just about all of the money advanced to get them to next season, then what?

Sour Mash - you were slagging people off on here and demanding the thread closed a few weeks back as there was no more mileage in the pompey story, for a moment we thought Ho had found himself a 4th user name. Then you rejoined us nutjobs and bed-wetters, no doubt enjoying the entertainment when pompey were firmly back in the sh1t, now you come back on to say it isn't funny... Please explain? Most people who don't like a thread just don't bother to visit it, so yes, in answer to your question, you are in the minority.

12 people unanimously dismissed all prosecution evidence in no time at all. :scared: Mmmm. If that example of court justice is anything to go by, pompey will comfortably trade their way into the play-offs.

Penny's latest outburst - ‘I’m confident HMRC will meet with the football club, it’s now just a matter of setting a date.’ Don't worry love, the date is already set, and HMRC are looking forward to it more than pompey. As for the other MP's government should buy fratton park nonesense - just a desperate attempt to hang onto votes as the ship sinks. I told them to buy it but they wouldn't, poor us, everyone else's fault etc Tip of the Day - Get Plan B up and running, and soon.

its that denial again - the club is where it is because of the management in the last year!! It was obvious to a retarded chimp with extra special learning difficulties that quality over quantity was a recipe for insolvency - even us nutjobs on here pointed that out when it started - the kitman's son knew that, even Ho's ITK who he sees every few weeks socially must have had reservations about the policy! But not the boss, with the full support of the fans he brought in loads of overpaid players, outbidding proper businesses and annoying other managers along the way. Lampitt sanctioned crazy contracts that the business couldn't sustain, so no one should pretend that this is history catching up, it's the present. But the nasty owners lost their funding, it wasn't our fault, again... They were criminals on day one when you got into bed with them, what did you think would happen?? It was the frickin mafia for god's sake, they were always going to get caught or kill someone, either way it wasn't good company to be in! It was also very clear that if someone serves a winding up petition they are serious about getting their money, so not attempting to raise any last week was an aggressive act likely to harden the resolve of the taxman - one might suggest that it looks like Lampitt flicked the Vs at HMRC. There is no sympathy for a business that portrays itself as a victim when the facts suggest otherwise. Ditto the fans - if you want the cup you can't distance yourself from the criminality that surrounded the purchase - nor rewrite the timeline to avoid earlier wrongdoing. Many of the few slag off Redknapp and the arms dealer, the guys that bought the cup - you can't be selective about which bit of history you want to keep.

thanks Hutch, the whole thing is becoming so complex it is beyond the layman - but it won't stop Mr Layman offering a strong opinion! Harry - to be found guilty or not? I lean towards yes, but with a feeble sentence, and no knock on effect for a club blatantly riddled with financial irregularities for a decade. While the dog, as instigator of the whole scam, will be given 10 years.

I said Surman accepted reality, which was to leave the club he wanted to play for rather than sit tight and have his contract paid up in full. I see a difference between him and the likes of Ben Haim who has taken root and will be the last item that has to be forcibly removed so the bulldozers can go in. No doubt when he's chained himself to the last dregs of his ridiculous contract in the south stand he'll be hailed as a plucky hero standing up to the developers. Come on then fellow nutjobs, who do we think is really in pole position to manipulate the business to where they want it? The taxman thinks he is in control but Chanrai is flying in to sort it all out. Chanrai has been in charge since he initially loaned the money and claimed the business, he was fully in control right the way through admin and beyond, even when CSI thought they were in charge - but I'm not sure that he's exactly where he wants to be now... AA has been looking after his boss since he became involved, ignoring creditors ever since he took responsibility for looking after creditors, but he couldn't make transfers happen last week - is he losing grip of the situation? Lampitt has been toothless and inept - he's a soppy boy who is sulking because his local paper reporting the truth. His decisions, overspending, ignoring alarm bells, have driven the business to the brink - and he seems to have no power. HMRC were fully in control at the start of admin but lost it to AA fairly quickly. They have control now, but can they hold onto it this time? That sudden mention of £17M from CSI was perhaps an initial attempt by AA to introduce another imaginary debt for future use to outvote the taxman if required, but I don't think it can get to that this time. So who will win this power struggle? AA has been surprisingly clever in the past, he and Chanrai have shafted allcomers against the odds. We won't know for a bit as they might have something extraordinary up their grubby little sleeves, but I reckon the duo's grip is slipping and it is advantage taxman. Likely outcome? IMO, taxman drops the ball again, AA pulls out a rabbit, CVA fails to happen, business limps on, terminally damaged, crawling towards a parachute payment. No punishment, more pain for the few - no clear outcome, no one happy.

its funny how the players who refused to leave are being hailed as loyal heroes when in fact it was selfish in the extreme. The club is desperate for cash, you just need to agree terms, but a legally-operating club can't match your current wage. Also your agent tells you that your contract will be paid up in full if the club goes pop - it could be a massive money spinner for you - so sit tight. If the club is liquidated the likes of Kitson and Ben Haim will be quids in and able to find new clubs on a free with a signing on fee. No greedy player will shift under those circumstances - and they didn't. Loyalty? Yeah right. We survived in some part due to Surman accepting reality, and the generosity of Leon Crouch - pompey seem to have neither a player willing to take one for the club, nor a fairy godfather.

without wanting to sound too positive I reckon our squad will be in better shape that many around us once we get a couple back from injury. We lose Fox, Harding steps straight in - we have three good centre backs, we now have good cover up front, we have choices in midfield. And perhaps even our reserve keeper has got his worst career moment out of the way early doors. I do hope so. With games coming thick and fast there are some clubs out there with less cover, and they must be dreading an injury or two. We look to have some depth - very similar to last season when as the pressure built, even a ludicrously-dogged Huddersfield couldn't stop us.

Perhaps the loan shark bunged the wages money across only to discover that HMRC immediately said, 'thank you very much, we'll have first shout on that'. Quite funny if the taxman or courts could keep intercepting further 'wages' loans and sorting creditors. The club purchase price increases, Chinny's losses increase, the greedy players go unpaid - win-win-win! More likely scenario is that Lapitt begged for help to cover December wages and assured the loan shark that it was a minor cashflow issue, he could fund January through sales - and then for some crazy business-sinking reason, didn't bother. I seem to recall Chanrai getting a little stitched not long after he first became involved - Storrie promised some income to him within months, a due transfer fee perhaps? But it was already needed elsewhere? Wasn't it something like, lend us £17M and you'll get £4M back fairly sharpish?...but it didn't happen. Storrie's note to self - Don't cross loan sharks. They survived against all odds last time, so I fear AA will pull something miraculous out of a hat - but I just don't think he even has a hat this time, so I don't know how he's going to do it.... The parachute payments must be the only thing that keeps the Chinster interested, but I don't think he can get at them without shredding the club in one big hit - and then they won't cover his claims. He would need all of them plus the ground and assets, odd. As for AA, there must be a limit to how far a special handshake gets you in the court system, he must run out of 'luck' soon. They are right in a corner, and even if he does allow them to continue to trade, the club name and any shred of reputation is finished. The clear breaches of FL regulations relate to insolvent trading, insolvency events - and that's before we find out if the club was responsible for tax-evasion. If they start life in the Championship next season, something will have gone very wrong at the top of our sport.

I have -5 on the thermometer - I'd be very surprised to see their game go ahead - it'll be down to the ref ignoring Lampitt on his knees begging for it to be played. Yes there is season ticket money already in, but that is only released to them when they play each game. Add in the lost walk ups which should be significant when you are asking people to Pack the Park, the refreshments, shop sales etc, and staff need paying as some are already at work - postponement would be quite a blow to income at the most unfortunate time.