Smirking_Saint

I played in a Quarter Final today so fortunately missed the game…. Am I seeing this right… he dropped DCC completely and played AMN at CB ?!

I agree with the assessments around our strike force but he’s made us defensively worse than we were previously and we look like we have even less of an identity Like it or not he had the WC break, sent them off on holiday, said he couldn’t work with them because they weren’t all here (we had the joint least away) and went into Lincoln and Forest like a bunch of headless chickens His tactics were 5 at the back snd long diagonals, a system we’ve tried and failed with before, puts us under greater pressure with less creativity and expects 3/4 players under 6 foot to try to win aerial duels We’ve had the easiest run of fixtures I can remember over a few seasons now, and out of a possible 21 points we’ve walked away with 3 I do not see, under any context how he should be given more time

I think you’re being intentionally obtuse, Ive said before and Ill say it again, and to clarify, this isn’t a statement supporting Ralph far from it.. We looked a team under Ralph that genuinely was only a striker and possibly a creative midfielder away from being competetive Under Jones we look a complete and utter shambles The players have to shoulder the blame, but this is a better squad than the previous two seasons imo

I don’t think we’re anywhere near as bad as a fanbase as most make out, we are of course, on the forum pretty polarised but like any online forum or social media presence those in these ‘forums’ tend to be the most outspoken in either camp (in/out) Ive never really seen the fanbase mood as low as it was under Ralph vs Brentford last year, I was in the directors box for that one and Ive never seen the heirarchy as uncomfortable as they were that day As for Jones ive never seen us quite this outspoken either, and I do think its warranted to an extent, not necessarily the personal stuff but almost certainly the anti jones feel I don’t think he is up to the task, thats the primary issue and one felt by the majority including outside footballing experts/pundits but most importantly he has done nothing but damage his own position with his terrible PR in press conferences whether it’s attacking the fans, his own self awareness or just calling us ‘they’ Ive met Ankerson, he is arrogant but he is almost certainly not stupid and almost certainly does not suffer fools which is why I find Jones’ continued employment even more baffling

What a ton of complete drivel Ive played, coached and watched enough football to know a busted flush when I saw one, I wasn’t convinced from the off I admit and that probably had an influence in my estimation of the man but you could see against Lincoln this side had actually regressed, it was even more apparent vs Forest that this was a man woefully out of his depth and the rot has continued As for firefighting, he was literally brought in to firefight.. its not his fault that he was a poor appointment but it is almost certainly his fault that he has accelerated the disharmony and toxicity around this club We do, I agree, have an influence, but you surely cannot be blaming us for quite how disasterous we are on the pitch

TBH Ill go with what I said before, that is his position is untenable He could win 5-0 this weekend and a vocal majority will still be waiting for him to drop the ball again.. the rot has been to quick and his comments have damaged him irreversibly I of course just want a manager to succeed, I want to see this club maintain its PL status but without a unified fanbase I just don’t see it being possible

Not that im aware of but im not there just trawling twitter

The jist of it is a few questions about the womens team and away fans More importantly- He needs to give Jones time with new signings The academy pathway is delayed as a lack of quality from 18-22 yrs old so we plugged gaps there

Considering he signed Bree I’m ok with that

Toby Steele isn’t it ? Not sure of the other guy

Football ownership shares are always massively convoluted confusing messes

Holdings* is the Southampton ownership group isn’t it ? Sports Rebublic Ltd is owned in full betwen Kraft and Ankerson

With respect you’re wrong

I think thats more down to Crocker and Ralph before he was burnt out then it was Semmens tbh who just managed to get by with soundbites that when analysed are vacuous or contradictory Im no great fan of the man, was apparently instrumental in fucking up some of our transfer targets in the summer too

Yeah I think your correct on that one. Ankerson comes across as arrogant and useless but not stupid, hanging onto Jones in this situation is beyond any reasonable business justification, by any metric (I know Rasmus likes these things) Jones’ position is completely untenable As for those wishing Ankerson to leave by Dragans hand I don’t think you quite understand the relationship, its my understanding Dragan has bought into ‘sports republic’ that is effectively Kraft X Ankerson more than he has bought into Southampton… Im sure questions are being asked but make no mistake I think there will be a divorce between SR and the club before we see one between SR and Ankerson

Hopefully Semmens gets the chop then, man is beyond useless

Well… I can disregard that source in the future then 😂

Pinch of salt time but apparently he’s gone So lets see if that info is correct or not Edit - Not info I inherantly trust but its from a reasonably informed source

I don’t think Bielsa is the man for us, certainly not in the short term anyway.. he needs too long to work on his intricacies even if a lot of his tactical approach fits with our philosophies I genuinely don’t know who could rescue us from this mess right now to be honest… I don’t think I’m miles away from saying ‘get Allardyce in short term’ I’m that desperate I just don’t see Poch as a viable appointment, he won’t come here, not in our current predicament and after PSG damaged his stock Ideally Id of liked Tedesco but again I think he’d need time to bed in his systems and looks off to Belgium

Bear was quite a bit after this tbh

I don’t think Ankerson is an idiot, arrogant yes, idiot no Id be very surprised if Jones is in charge against Wolves there’s far too much damage done

These were the glory days of Saintsweb - Bear - Alpine Saint - Hamster - The monumental pompey takeover thread

What about non domestic ?

I read it… Hint - We’ve let an average of 2 goals in a game since his hire Defensively I actually think we’re worse from an organisation POV tbh.. and it gets even more horrendous whrn you ponder why you’d invite pressure against a defensive unit struggling to defend effectively

I don’t think so, but Rasmus won’t resign, he isn’t terrible imo even if he is an arrogant arse (and I say this as somebody who has spent time in his presence) Semmens was apparently reasonably responsible for keeping Ralph and then failing to back him effectively, this is added to his consistent failures and didgy soundbites since the Gao era IMO Rasmus still has miles in the tank but has to cut ties with NJ and admit it was a fuck us Semmens however should pack his bags and save himself from his exhausting away trips he hates so much