Saint Pete

I see West Ham have just agreed a fee with Brentford to sell them Diouf their left back from last season for £35m initial fee plus £5m potential add ons. Puts the fees talked about for THB so far into perspective?

I don't think JWP is the perfect profile of midfielder that we need to replace Charles, but neither do I think that he has nothing to offer us in the Championship. He is a quality player despite the prejudices of some on here and I don't think we can be so dismissive of quality players in the position we are in. Would be glad if he rejoined us on a loan deal.

Stephens has always been prone to blunders and poor decision making and we saw both yesterday. Unfortunately, I still think he's probably the best partner for THB that we currently have at the club, that was proved for the majority of the unbeaten run last season. We can bring Wood in for him but don't personally think that will improve things as he isn't great either, will be a matter of time before he messes up too and you are all howling for Stephens to come back in again. Quality, reliable centre backs are hard to come by, we have just one at the club, which is why it is vital we do our utmost to keep him here this season.

Possibly yes. So we will need to adjust how we play when he is on as he won't hold it up as well but may offer other qualities, which was my point.

First impressions of Mubama are that he doesn't have the same physical presence and strength as a Larin or a Stewart. Of course it is very early days and I'm not writing him off to end up being a good signing by any means, but not having seen him play before, my feeling is he won't provide the focal point that we have been used to with the Larin/Stewart combo. So, perhaps we will need to adjust how we play a little when he comes on or starts. We certainly seemed to miss Larin when he went off today.

Well, classic Saints start to the season really. Just we can't afford it this season starting on -4.

I know that was our pattern last season but did Larin really need to come off? He was still influencing the game well and Mubama not really in it so far.

Let's not write him off after 1 proper game, just a thought.

Downes needs to calm down, we'll have no midfield at all if he goes off!

2 poor crosses from Scienza there.

Azaz close!

Superb from Manning. Could be a game winner that.

Game on.

Good defensive header from Jack there. Sadly at wrong end.

Thought we looked quite sharp in possession without end product before they scored. But the 2 goal start we have handed them means Watford can sit in now and we can't break on them.