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  1. It is looking very tight between the clubs in the middle of the table. How do you think the last few matches will pan out for these clubs? How will they do in each match and therefore where will they and we finish? I experimented with some possible results (albeit I was quite negtive in some of my predictions for other clubs and quite opimistic for Saints) and it is pretty clear that it would be highly unlikely for us to qualify for Europe even if Man City's ban is upheld on Monday: <table> <thead> <tr> <th>Wolves 52pts</th> <th>Result</th> <th>PTS</th> <th></th> <th>Sheff Utd 51pts</th> <th>Result<br></th> <th>Pts</th> <th></th> <th>Arsenal 50pts</th> <th>Result</th> <th>Pts<br></th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td>Everton (H)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> <td></td> <td>Chelsea (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Spurs (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Burnley (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Leicester (A)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> <td></td> <td>Liverpool (H)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Palace (H)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> <td></td> <td>Everton (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Man City (H)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Chelsea (A)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> <td></td> <td>Saints (A)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> <td></td> <td>Villa (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Final Points</td> <td></td> <td>59</td> <td></td> <td>Final Points</td> <td></td> <td>53</td> <td></td> <td>Final Points</td> <td></td> <td>52</td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr> <tr> <td>Spurs 49pts<br></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Burnley 49pts</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Everton 45pts</td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr> <tr> <td>Arsenal (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Liverpool (A)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> <td></td> <td>Wolves (A)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Newcastle (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Wolves (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Villa (H)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Leicester (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Norwich (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Sheff Utd (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Palace (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> <td></td> <td>Brighton (H)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> <td></td> <td>Bournemouth (H)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Final Points</td> <td></td> <td>53</td> <td></td> <td>Final Points</td> <td></td> <td>54</td> <td></td> <td>Final Points</td> <td></td> <td>52</td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr> <tr> <td>SAINTS 44pts</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Newcastle 43pts</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Palace 42 pts</td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr> <tr> <td>Man Utd (A)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> <td></td> <td>Watford (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Villa (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Brighton (H)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> <td></td> <td>Spurs (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Man Utd (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Bournemouth (A)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> <td></td> <td>Brighton (A)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Wolves (A)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td>0</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Sheff Utd (H)</td> <td>Win</td> <td>3</td> <td></td> <td>Liverpool (H)</td> <td>Lose</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>Spurs (H)</td> <td>Draw</td> <td>1</td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td></td> <td>53</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>46</td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td>45</td> </tr> <tr> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> <td></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> This would place the positions from 6 to 14 as follows: 6 Wolves 7 Burnley 8 Spurs 9 Sheff Utd 10 Saints 11 Arsenal 12 Everton 13 Newcastle 14 Palace OK - I accept this is unlikely but it's not impossible. Indeed, in this scenario we would only miss out on Europa League qualification on goal difference! How would you predict the other club's results and ours? How do you see it finishing? One of the interesting things with this 'prediction' is that if Man City get reinstated to European qualification or if a team finishing below 8th wins the FA Cup then both Spurs and Everton would miss out on European qualification. What impact would that have on Hojbjerg's transfer?!
  2. I notice that his performance was so good on Sunday that Garth Crooks has put him in his team of the week: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53306819 That is pretty high praise - effectively saying that over the weekend he was one of the top three defenders in the country on the basis of performances.
  3. Thanks for these responses to MLG's challenge. I think you have pretty much summed it up. My element of concern is not that we shouldn't qualify so we can qualify the following year - it is that I do not feel that we are ready to compete in Europe next season and that it could effect our overall season adversely. Too many teams have seen their performances in the league suffer during a season when they have started out competing in Europe - especially when their squads have not had sufficient strength in depth. I fear that with a limited time between seasons we will find the extra pressure on a limited squad could have a significantly negative effect. Having said all that, if we do achieve European qualification, I will be delighted, and hope that it will enable us to sign some quality signings which may counterbalance the above mentioned negative aspects.
  4. The expert's for today's match were saying that Saints have every chance of competing for eight place in the EPL, which could mean European qualification. Now that we know that the FA Cup winner will be out of Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal, the likelihood that the top 8 will all play in Europe next year is even further enhanced. So what do you think? Do you think we can finish in eight and do you think that doing so will yield Euro-qualification? Personally, I think it will definitely be a top 8 go to Europe on the basis that Man City's ban will be upheld and Arsenal will not be the FA Cup winners. While I think we could have a go at finishing 8th, I suspect we will just fall short of that and finish in something like 10th or 11th. It is a nice dream though! In reality it may actually better if we don't quite qualify for Europe this time out as it would be hard to fit in all those extra fixtures next season - though if we can get close then maybe that will help us in the transfer market so that we can make a decent push to qualify for the following year.
  5. 8-0 would take us above Arsenal... but so would 7-0 (on goals scored)! 😋
  6. So, this thread seems to be getting away from its main topic. Can I just ask then... * What is the current situation with Hojbjerg? * Is the touted interest from Everton and Spurs genuine or just press speculation? * If there was genuine interest, does that interest remain? * As asked above, is there a contract offer on the table for Hojbjerg and is it still on the table? What is the likelihood that he will sign it? * Should we be concerned that Pini Zahavi is his agent? * If Hojbjerg does leave, will Saints replace him or will we use the money to strengthen in attack and defence? Who will take over Hojbjerg's role in the team in that case?
  7. So... if Arteta caught it off the Olympiakos owner then does that mean that he will have been infected when they played Pompey? Potentially that will mean that the next British club to go down en masse with the virus could be Pompey!
  8. With JWP injured tonight, what is the news on Valery and KWP - are either of them ready to return for our next match?
  9. Middlesbrough away would be my preference, because: 1. I live in Darlington and down the road from the Middlesbrough training ground. 2. If we play Middlesbrough that means they have knocked out Mourinho's Tottenham. 3. We usually do well against them. 4. Away Fans are the most loyal Saints fans and always get behind the team - even when the chips are down. That is part of why our away results have been better than at home for much of this season so far! So, for those who claim that the only proper fans are the ones who want a home fixture, put that in your pipe and smoke it!! Failing Middlesbrough, any of the other Northern teams away from home, though prefereably not Mancs or Liverpool. Any of these though: Leeds, Newcastle/Rochdale, Sheff Utd, Sheff Wed, Hull City, Barnsley, Burnley or Carlisle (if they beat Cardiff). Also: Blackpool if they beat Reading or Tranmere if they beat Watford.
  10. I find it quite shocking that so many people are begging for him to be sacked to be honest. Bigger questions have got to be asked about recruitment and so much more than just our manager. He showed that he is a good manager last season but he seems to have been pretty unlucky this season. He wasn't helped by the failure of the club to recruit a decent centre back over the summer - Danso really isn't up to the task and his past record says it all! Also, while the club did recruit what seemed like a decent centre forward, he doesn't seem to have continued his great pre-seson form and can't seem to score anything. That having been said, I do wonder what is going on in training when we are not seeing any improvement in our attacking penetration. I would have thought that we would be starting to see more understanding building between e.g. Redmond and Ings/Adams, yet we still seem to be failing to put the opposition under pressure. I'm also concerned that there is rarely enough pace when we break forward from defence and that in particular contrasts massively with other clubs.
  11. Thanks - I thought that must be the case - why do BBC never have any clue about these sorts of things??!!!
  12. Can I just check - is Danso playing left back or is it Valery? And who is at right wing back? Is it Valery or Wrd-Prowse? BBC feed suggests that Valery is left wing back and Ward-Prowse right wing back, but that doiesn't seem to be what everyone is saying on here!
  13. A lot of us are giving far too much attention to another signing for our academy...!
  14. Great...! So he helped Wolfsburg achieve their greatest ever result by scoring their eight goal into his own goal!!! Not much sign of any clean sheets when he played and seems to have actually conceded a whole shed-load of goals when he has played - sometimes resulting in him being dropped! Let's hope that Ralph has seen in him the potential to be a great player... if this does actually get over the line!
  15. I used to like it when this thread included a list of rumoured deals with updates added regularly. With that in mind I decided last night to put together a summary of all the rumoured deals/negotiations that I had seen mentioned on here recently. It looks as if others have had a similar idea, but thought I would post mine nonetheless, especially as it includes a few possible deals that haven't been mentioned in the last couple of days. So, here is my summary: Potential Purchases/loans [table] [tr] [th]Player[/th] [th]Current Club[/th] [th]Position[/th] [th]Age[/th] [th]Terms/Cost[/th] [th]Link(s)[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]Jean-Clair Todibo[/td] [td]Barcelona[/td] [td]CB/FB/WB[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]Loan[/td] [td]https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/08/04/report-southampton-want-barcelona-defender-jean-clair-todibo[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Benoit Badiashile[/td] [td]AS Monaco[/td] [td]CB[/td] [td]18[/td] [td]€30M[/td] [td]https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2019/southampton-have-entered-the-race-for-monaco-defender-benoit-badiashile[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Ruben Aguilar[/td] [td]Montpellier[/td] [td]RB[/td] [td]26[/td] [td]€5-10M[/td] [td]https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2019/southampton-brighton-crystal-palace-enter-race-for-montpellier-right-back-ruben-aguilar https://onefootball.com/en/news/southampton-identify-montpellier-defender-as-potential-target-en-26576340 [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Josip Vukovic[/td] [td]Maritimo[/td] [td]Midfield[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]£1.5M[/td] [td]https://talksport.com/football/580359/transfer-news-southampton-aston-villa-leeds-united-josip-vukovic[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Alexis Claude-Maurice[/td] [td]L’Orient[/td] [td]Winger[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]£11M+[/td] [td]https://onefootball.com/en/news/nice-and-southampton-lead-race-for-lorient-winger-en-26559219 https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/07/31/report-southampton-lead-west-ham-in-alexis-claude-maurice-race [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Scott Banks[/td] [td]Dundee Utd[/td] [td]Winger[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]£400k[/td] [td]https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/crystal-palace-chase-scott-banks-18820073[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Diamond Edwards[/td] [td]Reading[/td] [td]AM[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]“Substantial” fee[/td] [td]https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-southampton-agree-to-sign-attacker-for-significant-fee[/td] [/tr] [/table] Potential Sales/loans out [table] [tr] [th]Player[/th] [th]Interested Club(s)[/th] [th]Terms/cost[/th] [th]Link[/th] [/tr] [tr] [td]Mario Lemina[/td] [td]Wolves, Everton[/td] [td]1 yr Loan + purchase [/td] [td]https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/wolves-in-advanced-talks-with-southampton-for-mario-lemina-4291549 [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Charlie Austin[/td] [td]Newcastle Utd[/td] [td]?[/td] [td]https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11775184/allan-saint-maximin-newcastle-close-to-agreeing-fee-for-nice-winger [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Guido Carillo[/td] [td]Boca Juniors[/td] [td]?[/td] [td]https://readsouthampton.com/2019/08/01/boca-juniors-continue-to-pursue-carrillo-a-sensible-move-for-everyone [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Cedric[/td] [td]AS Monaco[/td] [td]?[/td] [td]https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2019/as-monaco-shortlist-cedric-soares-southampton-william-carvalho-real-betis [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Soufiane Boufal[/td] [td]OGC Nice[/td] [td]?[/td] [td]https://readsouthampton.com/2019/08/01/nice-are-pushing-for-boufal-but-could-southampton-now-be-tempted-to-keep-him[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Fraser Forster[/td] [td]Liverpool[/td] [td]?[/td] [td]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7306479 [/td] [/tr] [/table] Obviously many of these are not going to happen but it gives something to keep an eye on. The Fraser Forster move already looked highly questionable and the fact that Liverpool have just signed a reserve keeper makes it seem even more unlikely. I haven't bothered to add in unsubstantiated rumours from posters on this forum, but that is not to say they won't happen. Make of them what you will based on your own experience of Cabbage_Face, Unbelievable Jeff, etc. My feeling is that the most likely move is that Lemina will go on loan to Wolves with a compulsory purchase contract for next year.
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