
Verbal
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You don't say anything worth arguing with. It's all reheated Daily Mail guff.
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This is just nonsense. The BBC does not make 'deliberate commercial decisions' - it doesn't make more or less money whatever Panorama's ratings. The timing of the programme was to coincide with the vote precisely because there is an issue of public interest at stake: the apparently limitless corruptibility of the world governing body for football. And 'there was nothing new' in it? You knew all that already, did you? I think not. The desire to punish the BBC by advocating something that will destroy it is a pathetic piece of small-minded revenge - all because of some weird perception that FIFA would vote against England 2018 simply because of Panorama. If true, that, in itself, would surely prove Panorama was right! And does a World Cup mean THAT much to you - that you want to wreak terrible revenge on a piece of investigative journalism by the BBC? The dimwitted, money-grubbing, genuflecting-to-corrupt-wealth Prince Andrew must be your hero.
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I assure you it isn't.
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Thank god none of you are allowed anywhere near journalism - but it's depressing to see such profound ignorance of a connection between free inquiry and the kind of society we (should) live in.
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Just released. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?_r=1&hp For me, the most significant 'news' is merely confirmation that Saudi Arabia remains the largest source of funds for al Qaeda, and that Qatar, another Western ally, is 'the worst in the region' for failing to act against known al Qaeda operatives in their borders out of fear of 'reprisals' from AQ and their sympathisers. The Arab peninsula remains the most significant source of global insecurity (which is to say, mass murder and maiming, particularly in countries like Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan) - something which all those who profit from their association with Dubai and other Wahhabi hangouts would do well to remember.
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I'll just pop in to say this - One, it's a loan. With Interest. Two, you're in no position to lecture. Dubai's indebtedness is 140% of GDP, which is actually MUCH worse than Ireland and Greece - and you, unlike Ireland or Greece, actually defaulted a year ago. Three, just like Ireland, Dubai has lost its autonomy (to Abu Dhabi in your case) through it's hopeless, bubble-headed expansion built on nothing but sand, slave labour, complacency and the kind of herd mentality that gave ex-pats an even worse name than usual.
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I know exactly where you're coming from Andy. I've decided to walk away (cue apathetic cheering), because the sheer pea-brained tedium of posters like dune, and the simple inevitability of racist garbage that results, as well as the pub-landlord 'wisdom' of DP, imparted while standing with both feet on the backs of South Asian contract workers, plus the utter boredom of the main board, all makes it simply not worth bothering with. I used to post as Roman, and had enormous fun, especially during the tommac days - but the sense of togetherness in adversity, which has always seemed to be essence of being a Saints fan, has evaporated on here. Far too many of the acerbic entertainers have gone - and the sheer comic genius of some of the threads of a couple of years ago is a distant memory. Never mind.
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Get the tube into Earls Court, not West Brompton. Parking is zilch. Everywhere around is either double red lines or residents' only.
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Sounds about right. The MPs' expenses scandal and our failure to prosecute companies that bribe foreign dictators are the main causes of this wonderful little result. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/26/britain-corrupt-mps-expenses-scandal
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The threshold is £45,000 I think. But you don't have to stay above it - just achieve it in the year of registration. VAT registration has some real advantages, but don't underestimate the paperwork, nor the inflexible attitude of the taxman if you're a day or so late or your quarterly return goes AWOL in the post.
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Verbal replied to dune's topic in The Lounge
The problem is your 'views' are so bizarrely crude as to defy sensible discussion. It would be like trying to argue with a Taliban. -
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Verbal replied to dune's topic in The Lounge
Every village has one. -
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Oh, and Johnny, on money/mouth matters, I'm interviewing James Heath on Friday - he heads up strategy for BBC news and sport. If you - or anyone - can formulate the bias question reasonably, I'll ask it and let you know what he says. -
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No, I'm not trying to make anything left v right (as my point about Brown should really have made clear). I have no interest in that whatsoever. What I find desperate - and it's fairly commonplace right now - is the philistine shoulder-shrugging stuff that dismisses intelligent, expert opinion as more or less equivalent to the ideologically driven 'analysis' offered up by Osborne et al. -
That did make me laugh.
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Well then that's your problem. If you really trust Osborne over Nobel laureates, I despair. In any case the bright young things you're so proud of in the Treasury were also there when Brown was in power. And by the way, if no one can predict, how come at least one of the Nobel laureates - Krugman - actually did predict the financial crisis in 2008? He was banging on about it relentlessly. There is some notion out there that somehow, government finances are this huge state secret, and that only the privileged few can see them. This is far from the truth and always has been. Economists really don't have to be inside the government to produce compelling models of how government finances, or indeed the British economy, work. -
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No, Johnny, the significance that the BBC places on all its bureaucratic activities, above that of programme-making, is that it is a bureaucracy, much like any other in the civil service - and like anywhere else in the civil service, it brings with it a natural conservatism (with a small c). Have you ever read George Orwell's 1984? His commentary on the accommodations of the BBC in relation to those in power (whomever it may be) is still valid today. You could certainly absorb all the cuts imposed on the BBC by radically rethinking its bureaucratic structure - making it more C4-like. But that won't happen. The axe will fall instead on programmes. As someone who is currently talking to (almost) the highest level, with the BBC on a regional issue in the North of England, I can see all too clearly what continues to grab managers' attention - and it isn't programmes. In 1979, the focus of criticism of the BBC, after five years of thoroughly exhausted Labour government, was that it was too RIGHT wing! Thompson is not to be trusted in his opinion on this. He may have been there, but he seems to have a very selective memory, and wouldn't have said this were it not agenda-driven - for example to try and deflect the very criticism that you and others make.. The criticisms in the 70s were led by what at the time was the hugely influential Glasgow Media Group, whose book, Bad News, framed the whole debate about right wing bias in the BBC and ITV from the mid to late 70s. As for advertising in the Guardian, the BBC places almost NO programme making jobs there. I challenge you to show me one advert for a television producer of a networked programme. A liberal outlook? Look who leads. Thompson is by no means a Labour apparatchik, and his predecessor, Greg Dyke is essentially a Tory (and advised the Tories this and last year on media policy). At least one channel controller has always openly (and gleefully) said he's a Tory. The nature of BBC politics is much more complex and nuanced than you suggest. Back on topic, I see that about 10% of the lost jobs in Osborne's cuts will be teachers. This is an exact parallel of what will happen at the Beeb - it's the essential frontline people who get the chop first, not the pen pushers who maintain the power to cut in the bureaucracy. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/20/schools-money-budgets-staff-cuts -
But he was right.
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I can't tell whether you've been misled or are deliberately being misrepresentative. The New Statesman article refers not to the 'former' DG of the BBC, but the present one, Mark Thompson. And he's not talking about 'left-wing bias' now - but more than 30 years ago, in 1979! The Independent and Standard articles are quoting John Bridcut's report, which is really a narrow public opinion piece that mixes two issues - the well known fact that support for the BBC declines the further North you go (hence Greg Dyke's decision to build Salford Quays), and arguments about political bias. The equation you make between the BBC as 'public service' and any political leaning is false, in my very direct experience. The BBC is, above all, a branch of the civil service in mentality, and consequently is prone, among management certainly, to be too obeisant to authority. (I can quote chapter and verse on this from personal experience, but I think it'll be wasted on you.) I do not want to be cast in the role of defending the BBC. There is an awful lot wrong with it - mostly to do with that civil service mentality and the appalling ways in which it reduces programme making to the status of also-ran, behind the more important functions of HR, faciltiies management, etc., and the way it casually imposes its rather authoritarian management style on a largely casualised workforce among programme makers. But left wing bias? I wish! -
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Actually not one Nobel laureate but two. Who would you tend to believe? Them or Osborne? -
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And here's Christopher P i s s arides (damn the swear filter!), the LSE economist who won the Nobel last week: Britain's new Nobel Prize winning economist, Professor Christopher P is s arides, has warned that the Government was taking "unnecessary risks" at a time when the economy remained weak. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/9326948 -
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Interesting opinion from a Nobel-winning economist: What happens now? Maybe Britain will get lucky, and something will come along to rescue the economy. But the best guess is that Britain in 2011 will look like Britain in 1931, or the United States in 1937, or Japan in 1997. That is, premature fiscal austerity will lead to a renewed economic slump. As always, those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/22/opinion/22krugman.html?_r=2&ref=paulkrugman So all those waving the bunting at the cuts and job losses, you're like turkeys voting for Christmas. You will be thrown out of employment, or your company wrecked, too. (And just to add, since one of the neanderthals will no doubt object: Klugman is NOT saying there is no need for spending cuts.) -
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The likely effect of the coalition's attitude to universities is that they will happily make the 40% cuts in the teaching budget (already announced in the CSR - and that is on top of £1bn cuts already made in university budgets), but then blink when it comes to approving the fees increase for students. This will leave even the best universities struggling badly. All at a time when our competitors are actually increasing investment in their university systems, to emerge stronger from the slump. If anyone is in any doubt about the impending damage, just look up the Nobel winners from Manchester, what they won it for, the huge future benefits their discovery entails, and how they have said clearly that they wouldn't have been able to do it in the present climate (and may not even have been allowed to be here to do it!). -
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Verbal replied to dune's topic in The Lounge
Have you got the slightest piece of evidence that this is true? As someone who's worked inside the BBC many times, I just don't see it. Accusations like this tend to be the product of an over-fertile conspiratorial mindset.