Liquidshokk

fiiiiiigggghhhhhttt!!!! I'd quite like to live somewhere seriously remote and not have have any kind of media influence at all. To not be aware of the mass murdering going on or all the things that are going to kill us; bird flu, swine flu, anthrax, SARS etc would be bliss..... kind of begs the question why we bother taking any notice of the media really...

So many things on the list but top by far is people who think just because they have indicated they can just move over a lane. c*nts. nuff said.

I personally dont like the sash idea one bit and dont think it will be a good look if they go with it. Will look more like a wavey ribbon around some of the bellies and moobs that will be in the shirts ;-) You just know there will be a backlash of some sort however it turns out. This is the saintsweb forum afterall :snipe::smt071

...and each time the news is shoved in our faces it gets less and less shocking and doesn't hit home as much. Cant work out if that's a good thing or not.

Very good points, never really thought about it like that. I guess if we all truly acknowledged every horrific event we would live in an even more depressing world than we do. Funny how that natural barrier is there in the first place though. Something we've developed as we've evolved? Were cavemens emotions more in tune with those around them or screamish when someone cut themselves? :-D Dead inside is strangely a good description for my point. Is it not a case everyone is really, as I don't truly believe that some feel more than others regarding the shootings for example. I think the country is shocked because it's in the news but otherwise not affected by it really. I heard a news reporter talking to someone in the village where it happened yesterday who had been given a lift before by one of the taxi drivers who was killed and the reporter was asking such questions as "how will you get over this? How long will it take for you to come to terms with and move on from this?" ffs, the guy didn't even know him and wasn't a witness to anything!! Was a facepalm moment. Maybe the media want us to feel more in these situations as the more attention to the story they can provoke the more people talk. I do dislike the media more every day as I cotton on to just how poor most of it is.

That is really sad if that's the case though isn't it. Sensationalist media causing us to react in an unnatural way to tragedy. I guess it's when you don't feel emotion when it IS actually relevant to you that you need to worry....I can sometimes struggle then and emotions hit me much later than they should :-S I guess one example and one that is relevant to the "not being able to feel sadness for someone you don't know" is when my sisters baby died in NZ, I'd never met the baby and so struggled to mourn despite it being my sisters baby. Then it hit me a few days later but initially I felt nothing. I feel awful for that fact. Do you think censorship could be to do with it? I mean if they showed you shots of the bodies laid in the street would you feel more??

I wasn't sure wether it was suitable for lounge given the references to beheadings and the underlying dark mood that surrounds such a subject. I don't dare cross some of the peoples comments on here by putting it in the wrong section :-D how do I get it moved if you deem neccesary? so out of interest how saddened are you by the shootings or that story about the kid and mother being killed? Does it instantly upset you/trigger true acknowledgement in your mind of the pain and sufferring involved or does that only come with serious thought? In my case it's the latter but I can't help feel it should be the former,..

Well at least she is quick at replying eh? Gives us some hope ;-)

You're certainly not alone. Now Im no cold hearted b@stard but it took to actually sit down and think about it hard before I really took in what happened and felt saddened by it. After analysing those two stories properly I did feel a lot of emotion. When I was driving home tonight I was listening to the news report about it and the reporter kept on saying "many were shot at POINT BLANK RANGE IN THE FACE" and said it at least 4 times. It not only felt like they were saying this to get more of a reaction but also made me realise how the common use of such words has meant that it didn't have the shock factor something so brutal should have. The thing that brought it home was when they reeled off the names of the people killed and what they were doing at the time which made the whole thing feel real. Maybe that's it, we hear these things described in such strong ways yet very little is said about the actual victims in most cases that you dont really treat it as real event.

Absof*ckinlutely this.

+1 Shame

Sorry for bringing up a morbidly depressing subject but following the shootings yesterday and this story in the echo http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/national/news/8200096.Witness_saw_mother_and_son_stabbed/ I have been trying to imagine what the victims would have gone through and I simply cannot comprehend the immense scale of the tragedies. Almost as if my mind just cannot handle how shocking the scenes must have been; most significantly the two year old kid being stabbed to death, can you imagine the scene?? how horrific it must have been! My point really is that we read such stories in the papers but we as humans don't react in a way that reflects the extremity of the event...You would have thought that the paper wouldnt be able to write about such things because of the shock/emotions it would generate if we fully appreciated the seriousness of it. Is it because we are just used to hearing about these things? Is it because we just don’t feel anything because we don’t know the person? Are we as humans incapable of feeling extreme sadness or general emotions for someone unrelated? I know plenty of people who have watched beheadings online when they were all the rage some years back and most think nothing of it.... surely any kind of serious extremity should be treated as just that, SERIOUSLY EXTREME?? Your thoughts on why this is would interest me

Haha, that makes sense actually. That was an up yours to the echo lol

I'm starting to think the same. Still holding out hope following the "red shirt protest you know" although prepared to lose 20 quid now.

I'm more concerned about the fact that peoples opinions are slowly changing regarding Cortese. He seems to be upsetting a lot of people and we know how badly that can end up....

Cortese and Markus were blown away from the start with the fact that we have such a large dedicated fanbase and are now abusing that fact imo. Cortese knows full well that people will pay whatever amount they ask and doesn't appear to remember what its like to not be minted. FAIL.

I think they will come. Despite the poor english she does have a point about the red shirt protests as they are coming from that way it would seem.

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Havent received mine yet but I chased it up yesterday and got this response; "Please wait because package will delay about “Red shirt in Thailand you know “ but will arrive in soon Sorry for advance."

Mmmmm... I nice fat juicey season ticket would go well with that too

More?? I didnt know there were any! I spose you could class a yorkie as vegetarian... :confused:

This is the response I got ... Didnt want to make you worry by detailing the poor use of engrish though

I emailed them about this and had a response saying that their back office has a fault but the order has been processed.

That would be some commute :-) Im sure its coming and Im sure Ill be impressed.... As long as it arrives by the 12th for the world cup party I'll be happy.... Hope it can withstand all the alcohol that is going to get spilt over it on that day

Snob