TijuanaTim

Come on admit it, 1) How many of you had a a flutter on Saints winning away 1-3 today? 2) How many gambled on Saints conceding in the late stages (last quarter of game)? 3) How many bet on Lambo scoring? 4) How many wagered on Connolly netting? And before you ask gambling is illegal where I live ;-) (money for old rope, if your a statistical gambler FFS)

Jeezarse - commentator just said "...at the back they have Smith and Weston..." they must be damn sreious if they're carrying shooters FFS

After discussing this if Ron Does any 'team' art, he will do each player one at a time and it will probably be a little bit of a lengthy project. Strictly speaking, he wants to and is best at doing 8"x10" or there abouts, of individuals. Any secondary people or objects will be there just as props or to enhance the subject matter person. Hope this helps.

Quality input my friend - genuine thanks, some excellent points!!

Quick Update: Encouraged the Big Fella to go to Social Security today with his documents and marriage license...'why you may ask?' So that he can get a renewed copy of his Permanent Resident Alien ID (AKA Green Card), which he lost sometime ago. With said Green Card Ron can 1. get a New Mexico driver's license and 2. more importantly can travel outside the US i.e. TO ENGLAND!! Small steps.

Phil, terrific response. I just want to re-iterate some stuff, maybe that I should make clear. Firstly, we do not want to inundate Ron. What has been sent so far should be fine for him to cope with. He thinks the World of his Southampton 'family' and is not really (at this stage) looking to go outside the people on here and other fans by word of mouth. Ron, doing good quality work can probably do about two pictures a week to start with. I have to tell you if Ron is not happy with the picture he starts afresh and does until he feels he gets it right. He (thinks) he does guys better than ladies. I totally agree if he was marketed and run like a business with your guidelines he could make some decent money out of it. However, the goals are more to keep Ron happily occupied and provide some of you great Saints people with something very good and somewhat desirable and collectable, for a reasonable donation.

Ron did a coloured (pastel/coloured pencil maybe) of my girlfriend Stephanie for all the help leading to his successful hip ops, it came out of the blue!! He just said 'hey for all the talking we do, I've never seen Steph so send me snap'. The next thing we know is that a beautiful picture shows up. He knows that Steph is a keen golfer, so he portrayed her golf club in hand and golf-bag in the background. The reason I am mentioning this is that neighbours and friends, who have not a clue who Ron is, asked where she got it? How much it cost? And then wanted to know about Ron. His work (alone) is really good.

Full length...

Please note the level of detail in this, one of Ron's more recent efforts. In my 'photo' album you can see the full drawing, in kit etc...

These replies and the PM responses I am receiving are excellent. Here are a couple of generalisations. Ron will, for the most part, do art of individuals. e.g. you with a golf bag. Your dad with a fishing rod. Mark Dennis crossing from the left or Elvis with a microphone...you give him the theme. He will sketch the picture with a large face on a minature body. Normally if there is more than one character in his art then the other(s) besides the main focus will be done in minimal detail and as a 'prop' to the main subject only. I have a truly fantastic one of Danny Wallace that Ron did, I will try and post it tomorrow for all to see the quality.

So it is fantastic and I mean really FANTASTIC that we have won (yet again, I may add) and more importantly kept our first clean sheet in 15 games FFS I did not want to come back on this thread and say 'it is still a major problem'. Instead, let's hope this is the full stop behind these 'more than statistically random' spate of goals conceeded in that specific part of the game...As a quick heads up 8 of last 10 goals have been let in at 68-54-90-68-75-90-73-90, for what that's worth.

Yaeh, thanks mate...clear those cookies and it works fine FFS

not working FFS

~~Mods, I hope this is appropriate and if you could make a sticky out of it for a whaile that would be helpful too.~~ While spending quite a bit of time with Southampton superstar and icon Ron Davies in New Mexico recently we discussed many things, as you can imagine. Ron is a proud man, that has through little fault of own fallen on some challenging times, losing his beloved wife Chris and also coming through major surgery etc. Anyway I guided conversations towards things that he enjoyed, gave him pleasure and contentment. Besides 'soccer' and memories of his Southampton career (definitely his happiest times in the game), Ron really has pride in his real ability to do (what I think are outstanding) caricatures and sketches. Most of us recall these fine pictures and yet Ron had little idea just how desirable they are to people. From a simple 7x5 or 10x6 facial photo Ron can draw great likenesses and enjoys doing it. So the question is and just feeling the water you understand, is their interest out there to have Ron do a picture/s of anyone? Yourself, a family member or friend, maybe even a past of present player/athlete/singer or star. Just gauging interest to see where it takes us. PM me if you want to ask any questions etc or make a comment discreetly, btw as good as Ron's cartoon etc were back in the day they are now much more detailed and improved.

Wow, mate...what a very concise way to put it. I hadn't seen that, so thanks.

GOAL : Not sure BB is up to it, watched him .v. USA in the WC U-20 get chewed up for @ss paper. He stops the ball fairly well, but does not inspire confidence...and that is too big a risk to take. Get a loaner in from the MLS, who have a plethora of totally quality 'keepers. That is the one position that the US really excels at and you could get a 30/60/90 day loan while they are out of season here and not playing. DEFENCE : Pick up one more good 'outside' full back. MIDFIELD : More of a 'nice to have area' for us, I really think we're solid in their...maybe one more 'Lalanaish' type than can link between mids and strikers?? STRIKERS: Yeah we need at least one more decent 'goal-scorer' for our/the next level (but then again name a team that doesn't). Part 2: There is a lot of top quality players if we find the right fit in Holland, USA, Australia and Scandanavia....just need to research them as players and as people before trying to bring new blood in. Dutch players seldom fail in England, Ausies and Americans are desperate for success/challenge/recognition over here and Scandanavia has historically been one of our best resources.

You for one are one that I would not argue that with FFS Funny, I showed Big Ron that goal, he described it like it was yesterday BEFORE HE WATCHED IT, terrific 'Saints memory' and does not remember much about Chester, Luton, Norwich or pompers. He does recall his time at Man U and in the States tho'.

Besides MankU in the final, everyone else we played in '76 were mediocre at best right? Yeah we won the cup and to do that is an awesome achievement, however just like every winning team before and after us the 'good fortune cup Gods' were looking down upon us right. Fortune/dominance whatever is more likely to come your way at home to Accrington than at Stamford Bridge.

Make sense to me, he ain't throwing good money after bad...The further we go, the more games we get, the more hard cash we earn....Keep the Lutons coming please!

Another good point...what an anti-climax to lose away to one of those two.

Done...did you go yesterday? How was it?

S'right Sooooooul Boy, Ron had already gone before '74, Gabriel too I think??

Good points Mr V. My point initially, was the competition gets harder as you go deeper..like it or not..so I hope fortune gives us an easier option.

Thanks dronk...here is that song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQIPJ6MLK8

Out of the three it always has to be the league. However, have to say this season's top priorities should be to positive and enjoyable experiences, whilst embracing a 'winning' mentality...in other words, winning - the right way - having fun doing it.