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Seriously, the OAU (AU) are closed shop Marxist organisation. I do however think the UN would be best placed to lead a mission.

Yes, and there'd be benefit for British citizens who have been persecuted, and there'd be benefit for all Zimbabweans except the ZanuPF thugs. Whatever your views on the white farmers it is a fact that they fed the country and made it the bread basket of Africa. It's gone back to subsistence farming which would be OK if the population was 600,000, but it's 12 million and farms have to be run commercially to feed this number of people. I defy you to say this would not be a morally correct war for british forces to participate in.

As a follow up the maker of the documenary Ben was beaten to within an inch of his life, as were his parents both almost 80 years old. In June of this year Ben became a MBE. http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/kent/hi/people_and_places/newsid_9131000/9131730.stm Brave man, but sadly his efforts were in vain. He and his father were removed from the farm and the land is derilict. The night before Ben spoke to BBC Kent his friend, a farmer in his 70s, was shot while in bed. There is no stronger case in the world for british armed intervention than here.

There was always going to be few that would seize upon the first opportunity to slate NA. Personally I think he got it wrong by playing 1 up front, but that's just my opinion and I remain 100% behind him.

It's straightforward what I believe. I believe that our armed forces should fight for British people. We should have been fighting to protect these people who fought for our country in the second world war, yet we abandoned them. It's a disgrace. In video 4 from about 5 mins there is an old man who you've got to admire who has stood up to Mugabe's thugs and told them they'll take his farm over his dead body but if they try they need to bring quite a few more spare coffins because apart from him going into a coffin he's going to take quite a few of them with him as well. Whatever your views these are proud and brave people and we have let them down. This is a great home made documentary btw.

I bet you've been longing for this moment.

We played 1 man up front and we got exactly what we deserved.

5 minutes, we're gonna win 4-3

Dave: Carlise have every man behind the ball and the sort of tells you something. I'm lost.

Had turn the volume up for dave, now it's blarting out.

Why didn't the ****s play the music?

Fair enough. You're slightly lacking in your knowledge of the event, which was post war white settles throwing the Mau Mau off their land, but the genocide was for land and wealth and not for idealogical reasons. That said i'm not entirely covinced the NAZI's anti Jew sentiment was totally about race especially given that recent discovery that plundered Jewish wealth funded 30% plus of Hitlers empire building. No doubt there were anti semitists though, it'd be wrong to deny this.

I do. I want us to be like them.

How is there 17 minutes left?

It must just be empty seats in the away end like usual then.

Another full house?

Looking on the bright side we're only 2 points of 3rd, 4 points off second

You're ignoring the fact that we had an Empire. Do you think we got that by offering them a cup of tea?

Dickson is sh11t so that will help.

Carlisel fans sound like ****s. come on saints, get a point.

Only if it was financially beneficial for us or in the interests of British citizens. I think that should be the standard requirement for any engagement involving British forces.

oh ****ing dear.

We didn't know what they were doing!!!

Our decision to fight the NAZI's had nothing to do with their policy against the Jews etc. It was a political decision. Interestingly had Lord Halifax been PM we would have sided with them.

Badger I posed the question earlier: Of course I deny it because i never said that. I said that Britain 60 years later might have been a better country. I talked about the holocaust and how bad it was, but then explained the situation in kenya and the Mao Mao concentration camps of the 1950's, and suggested that we (the British) really were no better. The germans killed millions in camps, we killed thousands in camps. In your view does that make us better or less worse?