Sour Mash

Fair enough, apart from games played outside of London and played in holiday seasons, not many away games went to General Sale last season Still easy if you're a season ticket holder.

Yep, that's enforcing the payment of current tax rates, which as an argument makes sense. But is anyone suggesting that any of the existing tax rates that are levied across the board should be significantly increased?

What does that have to do with anything? 'In holidays'.

A huge amount of tax is collected in this country, I can't see why anyone would want significant changes and increases to what is currently in place (apart from a few tweaks to the system).

West Ham and Palace away didn't sell out last season. We didn't take the full allocations at Spurs or Chelsea. Man Utd didn't sell out. For the vast majority of away games, if you're a season ticket holder, you can get a ticket.

Where is the 1.2k allocation coming from? Away end looks bigger on the footage I've seen.

So you wouldn't use an ISA for savings then?

I don't know if the club pick up stuff like this, but worth them trying to work with Vitesse on extra tickets, there's clearly big demand from our end. Would Vitesse expect their sections to sell out?

You wouldn't pay that much for a hotel. Most decent priced flights have gone, so its one of the cheaper ways to travel, but not much fun sat on a coach for that long.

Cheers. I think you can start new threads on the main forum, but not post new replies?

The good thing about it being against good opposition is at least it makes it a big/exciting game, bit riding on it and should be a top atmosphere, rather than just against Albanian minnows.

Look on Expedia, there were plenty available earlier. Or if looking for really cheap, hostelbookers.com or hostelworld.com ! Thin we're going to do a couple of nights in Arnhem, as have been to Amsterdam plenty of times before.

Good stuff. What is the away allocation?

At least it makes it quite a big game now, rather than a bit of a "nothing" friendly type atmosphere.

Tough game, eay journey. Would have rather have gone to Albania for the crack. We'll take f****g loads over there. No-way our fixture will change around?

We're going to get Vitesse or Sturm Graz!

Much appreciated

Its the Europa now I think.

Yeah, its on now, uefa website.

At least its in English.

Dont worry, found it.

Podgorica aint too bad, its Kukesi that is the really tough one. Anyone got a link to the live draw, can't find it on uefa website?

Will the Gronignen game be shown anywhere on-line?

Yeah, just looking at that now, proper nightmare travel wise! Fairly tough group all told, some potential long old trips (kuckesi) and potentially tough games (Vitesse and Graz)

Yeah, I know how it works thanks. What was your initial rant based on?